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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (2021)	2/17/1999 12:20:00 AM
From: nuke44	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2390

I don't really so much see the SF situation so much as a confrontation between the tenets of liberalism and conservatism as it is the politics of race. Both disciplines claim to hold the high ground in that argument, but it's truer to say that both don't hold any moral superiority over the other. When I read your "as soon as the conservatives start seeing themselves in the minority they change their stripes", I couldn't help but think, "when the liberals start seeing themselves in the minority they pass a law." As for your contention that we should treat the disadvantaged better than we do this very wealthy country, I will say that in my experience, which covers over 20 years abroad, on every continent, I witnessed just how inhumane man can be to his fellow man. There is no country on earth that would ever try to claim that it treats its disadvantaged better than they are treated here. I make this claim unequivocally. There is also no other country on earth that assumes to support the disadvantaged of other nations like we do and certainly no other country on earth that allows illegal aliens to enter it's sovereign territory, against it's law and then proceeds to offer them benefits paid for buy it's nation's taxpayers. Every other nation I ever lived in expelled illegal aliens even if it meant delivering them into the hands of those would would kill them unless their sanctuary was beneficial to the host nation. The only nations on earth that claim a higher standard of living for ALL of it's residents are the industrialized nations that can afford to pay for generous social programs because the overwhelming majority of those receiving those benefits are the ones that worked to pay for them, not as it is here where you have millions upon millions of people receiving benefits that others have worked to provide for them.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (2021)	2/18/1999 7:01:00 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 2390

<<when it comes to the truly disadvantaged, I think we should treat them better than we do in this very wealthy country.>> Some people are not willing to see the indigent as brothers and sisters in the human race who are suffering from unfortunate circumstances. You seem willing to take a look at the individual circumstances in this situation...unlike your position on abortion, where your stance is, "women are human beings with rights, infants are not. Thus, your advocacy of the return of infanticide. You can see the lines of acceptance moving further and further out. You can also see the choice of families to keep boy babies and abort female babies in countries where numbers of offspring are limited. You also know that in ancient times infanticide was a choice to limit the number of female offspring in a family. We're almost there Michelle, isn't going full circle exciting.