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To: J.B.C. who wrote (2027)2/17/1999 1:01:00 PM
From: the gator  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 2390
 
Look it is really a waste of time doing this as those of your ilk I'll call them Youngblood's Rangers, are nothing but a bunch of malcontents who should move to Montana. Hire that racist trying to become a lawyer in Illinois (another piece of work) and shoot each other to ribbons.
What prompted my response, hopefully my last but you make it too easy, was this> I have never seen a tax and spend agenda that has worked<
I know you are saying the 70 some odd percent of americans that see it differently are not as smart as you and the 90% of those who are in mid-life having the best time of their lives aren't as smart as you so something seems amiss. If this agenda is not working why are we so happy why is this the biggest economic boom the world has ever seen? Face it man you and your ilk are just a bunch of malcontent losers, do yourselves and us a favor move to Montana,Idaho,Utah,Virginia any other redneck havens that will have you and leave the country. And get some help for your editorial genius, Youngblood, there is one sick puppy but then again he speaks volumes for you'all and your frustrations. Bye Bye again



To: J.B.C. who wrote (2027)2/17/1999 1:21:00 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2390
 
Here's one for you gator: I have "NEVER" seen a tax and spend liberal agenda that has
worked!


In fairness, it depends on how you define "tax and spend liberal agenda" and how you define "worked." (Let's not try for "is" at this point. <g>)

Social Security has certainly "worked" to reduce poverty among the older population. Of couse, it has increased poverty among the working class and their children, but that just means we need a new tax to support them <g>. Medicare has "worked" to save seniors from spending all their childrens' inheritances on medical bills, making the children, who tend to be in their 50s when Mom and Dad die, happier. The cost, again, is on the working poor, but again, that just means another program is needed to overcome that.

The Clean Air act has worked to clean up the air. Actually, that's less a tax than an increased cost on the things we buy. When a government program is paid for by taking money directly from the consumer and using it to pay for a program, it's a tax. When a government program is paid for by making employers or businesses pay for the improvements and pass the costs on to the consumer/taxpayer in increased prices, that's not a tax, it's just a cost of doing business.

(Query: how do you eliminate the Social Security tax and still keep seniors financially secure? Answer: require employers to hire at least one person over 65 as a "senior consulting employee" for every three regular employees they have, pay that senior consulting employee $25,000 a year, and require only that that employee telephone the company once a year to confirm their address, which will help for census purposes and to make sure they are still alive. No tax! Just a new government program funded by the private sector. See how easy government is???!!!)