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To: DAVID C. DeANGELIS who wrote (364)2/19/1999 3:10:00 PM
From: R Fish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 954
 
David,
Based on IPO.com's IPO calendar PWCC/Flashnet is now been moved back to the week of 3/1. I agree w/ your logic, but next week is the "do or die" for this IPO backdoor. Next week should be the IPO "run" (if there is one)

Fish



To: DAVID C. DeANGELIS who wrote (364)2/21/1999 9:03:00 PM
From: StockHawk  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 954
 
David,

I haven't seen mention of this one one the thread yet - TD.

February 9, 1999
The Broker Within Toronto Dominion
By Paul R. La Monica

YOU MAY HATE the customer service at online broker Waterhouse Securities. But that's no reason to hate the stock of its parent, Toronto Dominion (TD). This Canadian bank is contemplating a public offering of a 20% stake in its discount brokerage unit, which includes Waterhouse and Jack White. If Toronto Dominion pulls it off, the parent company's stock could climb over 20%, says Hugh Brown, a banking analyst with Nesbitt Burns.

Sure, online brokers have become investors' whipping boys after highly publicized service outages at E*Trade (EGRP) and Ameritrade (AMTD) this past week. But the stocks still sell at sky-high multiples compared with traditional banks and brokers. Even after falling 10 points early Tuesday, Ameritrade was selling at 64 times year 2000 earnings.

Those high multiples have got Toronto Dominion management thinking. Why not sell a piece of Waterhouse? It could garner a P/E near 50 times expected earnings, much higher than the parent company's forward P/E of 18. The maneuver would raise cash and hopefully increase the market cap of the parent, once investors get a handle on what the discount-brokerage operations are worth.

In the bank's Jan. 26 press release, CEO A. Charles Baillie said the company would probably spin off no more than 20% of Waterhouse and would use the proceeds from a public offering to make acquisitions. Brown of Nesbitt Burns says Toronto Dominion is about two weeks away from making a final decision on an IPO.

Investors have bid up Toronto Dominion in anticipation of an IPO. But Brown thinks the stock is still undervalued. Here's why. Brown figures the discount brokerage operation will earn about 34 cents per share this year. Give that operation a multiple of 50, and you get a value of $17 per share. He believes the bank will earn $2.35 per share this year. At a multiple of 15, those operations are worth $35.25 per share. Put those two together, and you get a value of $52.25, which is a 26% premium over Toronto Dominion's current share price.

A P/E of 50 may sound outrageous. But consider Waterhouse's astronomical growth. In the fourth quarter of last year, the firm's trading activity was up 58.5% over the previous quarter, according to a report by CS First Boston e-commerce analyst Bill Burnham. That gives Waterhouse a 12.4% share of the online trading market, vaulting it ahead of E*Trade, which has an 11.8% share. Charles Schwab (SCH) still has a sizable lead, though its market share fell from 30.3% to 27.4% in the fourth quarter.

Furthermore, consider that Schwab sells at more than 62 times 1999 earnings, and E*Trade parent E*Trade Group is expected to lose 28 cents a share this year, yet it still trades at a recent 41 5/8.

What type of acquisitions is Toronto Dominion likely to make? With high P/E Waterhouse stock, it might go after other online trading firms. Burnham says the three large enough to make sense for Waterhouse are E*Trade, privately held Datek and Ameritrade. E*Trade would be unlikely but not impossible.

StockHawk



To: DAVID C. DeANGELIS who wrote (364)2/23/1999 6:46:00 PM
From: Millionairess  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 954
 
interesting remarks from briefing today - does anyone have any thoughts on the backdoors, if any to these private companies - i know that chemdex is 16% owned by CMGi - good luck to all!

here's the link followed by the APPLICABLE excerpt:

briefing.com

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Finally, the Robertson Stephens analysts listed the private or recently public companies most likely to be the next important internet companies. Here's the list:

Digital River (DRIV)
Stamps.com and/or eStamp
iPrint
Loopnet
RealSelect
AllApartments.com and/or Rent.net
MonsterBoard
Chemdex

However, Mr. Benjamin also stated that it looks like Q2 will have a glut of internet IPOs, judging from the deals in the pipeline.
EOM