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To: Ken Salaets who wrote (3991)2/20/1999 10:28:00 AM
From: flatsville  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9818
 
Ken--You should read this pos:

Econimics 10101....
zdnet.com

Where a zdnet "writer" (if I can use those two terms together) attempts to refute Yourdon's arguement because if for no other reason than Yourdon is not an economist. Of course neither is Mitch Ratcliff, but that doesn't stop him from trying with the help of a "real economist."

The real economist notes:

According to the Conference Board's Chief Economist, Gail Foster, the Gross Domestic Product (as compared to the GNP, the older designation of roughly the same amount of new wealth created each year) is just one of 10 indicators that make up the Leading Economic Indicators (LEI). Writing in the Conference Board's February 1999 StraightTalk newsletter, Foster said, "In general, a 1.0 percent decline in the LEI spread across 5 of the 10 indicators is a strong recession signal." This has happened several times in the last 15 years, but only led to a recession once, in 1990-91.

You may actually be able to incorporate this into the argument you're trying to make. If she provides a model in that Feb. '99 newsltetter, you've got it made...though I think you could make your argument on the relationship between a drop in GDP and rise in unemployment alone. (I've got the figures from 1990-91 now and it ain't pretty.)

She goes on to give yet more ammo:

Economic shocks and/or events must be of much greater magnitude than generally assumed to cause the whole economy to contract." This is a critical point, because it underscores the naiveti of commentators on Y2K, like Yourdon, who writes, "I see Y2K as a 'catalyst' or as the straw that breaks the camel's back [leading to depression]."

Now don't you think a HIT to the 20% import/export portion of the GDP (assuming Victor is correct) would be quite a SHOCK! This is your BIG GUN Ken. She's obviously assuming a perfect world scenario where the job gets done, gets done correctly and on time as the next paragraph indicates:

With key indicators of labor use at near or record highs, further output gains in this expansion must come from productivity gains." In other words, there are a lot of reasons that the economy might slow, but the Y2K problem is not one - this because the investment in Y2K repairs, which is on-going, but decreasing, is non-productive. When these resources are shifted back to productive work and performance-enhancing investments, they will add to productivity. Perhaps not enough to offset other economic pressures, but certainly enough to ameliorate damage from Y2K itself.

(Yes, Christine, another economist who sounds like a religious fundamentalist.)

Earlier in the article Ratcliffe spews (parrots?)a bunch of other cr*p re: remediation along the supply chain and the impact of business failures in various sectors...yaddah, yaddah, yaddah...argued from an "American" perspective as though the rest of the world simply doesn't exist or supply anything to us or us to them. It just proves that they don't have their eye on the ball...After all, some of the bad news re: state of remediation in other countries is just starting to leak out (Australian businesses, SE Asian component providers, the government of Italy, etc...) If your not even looking for it to begin with...well...see no evil, hear no evil and certainly speak no evil.

This article is a gold mine.