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To: Jamey who wrote (24547)	2/20/1999 11:58:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

As you chastise me, do you ignore all the scriptures that were posted by your own Paul about the kingdom? Look at the scriptures BEFORE pentecost. Mark 1:15, Matt. 3:2, Matt. 4:7, Matt. 10:7 NOW look at these AFTER pentecost. Col. 1:13, Heb. 12:28, Rev. 1:6,9. Notice anything?? All before pentecost say in essence kingdom is NEAR and after pentecost, as the kingdom ESTABLISHED. The thousand years appears nowhere in the sixty-six books of the Bible except in this one chapter where it occurs six times in six consecutive verses. That's not solid study to build an entire system of beliefs about the end of the world. Especially when that interpretation conflicts with other plain passages of scripture. There are difficulties accepting a theory of a thousand year reign of Jesus on earth, when we consider the total view of the book. There are some things not mentioned in this chapter. First, this chapter does not mention the second coming of Christ. Second, it does not mention a reign on earth. Third, this passage does not mention a bodily resurrection. Fourth, it does not mention Christ on earth. And fifth, it does not mention us, it says "they" lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. The passage speaks of they, that is the souls of them that had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus. Look at these verses that speak of 1000 years: Deut. 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commands. So after a thousand generations God will cease to love?? OR is this symbolic of His enduring love? Job 9:1 Then Job replied: 2 "Indeed, I know that this is true. But how can a mortal be righteous before God? 3 Though one wished to dispute with him, he could not answer him one time out of a thousand. So Job COULD answer on the 1001st time? OR is it symbolic that Job could not answer? Psalms 50:9 I have no need of a bull from your stall or of goats from your pens,10 for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. So the cattle on 1001 hill is not His? OR is it symbolic that ALL is His?? There are more but you get the idea. Are you so ready to hang your hat one one apocalyptic chapter to be literal and say all the rest are not? Let me make one thing clear. I do not say that God has nothing to do now with Jews or Israel or whatever. God word says He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy. I do not attempt to judge that. And one more thing about Paul. Does this sound familiar? 10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas "; still another, "I follow Christ." 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? 14 I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized into my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel--not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who ARE BEING saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. 26 Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things--and the things that are not--to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31 Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."