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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24639)2/22/1999 1:12:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Respond to of 39621
 
><>...Alan, you have gotten completely off track...><>

Why are you so combative?

You have once again personally attacked me without justification. You have written things that just have nothing to do with anything. Alan I am sorry, but I don't understand your intentions at all. You have assumed many, very inaccurate conclusions about me, and rather than go on defending myself to you, I will just let it go by saying, you have judged me poorly and without any reason.
And so I will not continue this with you. I will not let my flesh get into it at all. satan will not have his way with me.

You stated and asked in the same sentence:
I stay the course DO YOU?
The course I stay on is God's love and mercy for all in the name of His precious Son, Jesus my Saviour.
You know nothing about my ministry,and the thousands of unbelievers I come in contact with. O, if you only knew.

And Alan this fight you guys were having was not at all about Mark or unbelievers,and neither was my previous post, so why have you turned the focus on Mark?. This was about Christians and fighting amongst themselves. And I am not sorry that I pointed it out to anyone. My hands are clean. If you want to continue your fight then so be it. But I do pray this, that you have nobody to fight with .I will say no more.
As for me and my house we will server the Lord.

Gal 5:23-26
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
(KJV)

Shalom...><>
Alan, please don't feel compelled to respond. Nothing more needs to be said. You are still my brother, and I still love you in all sincerity, as Christ my Savoiur would have me do.



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24639)2/22/1999 1:38:00 PM
From: mark silvers  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Alan,
Thanks for the kind words.

I certainly don't think this is an Emile vs. Mark issue. Obviously I am not Christian(despite Dan's repeated attempts via PM to make me see the "error" of my ways):-)
Neither is Emile a believer in my hybrid Unitarian/new age viewpoints.

Emile's views are rooted in hatred. A majority of his posts are not about what he believes in, but what he is firmly against. He preaches about what he hates, he focuses on what he hates, he is consumed by what he hates.

As for me, I am hardly perfect either. there are times when I am too flippant, or when I let anger rule the moment. I am working on that.
the main difference is that I hold no anger towards Christianity or any other religion although I admit that I truly am not a believer in organized relgion.

My feeling is that if it(Christianity) brings you closer to Love, closer to your family and your ideals, if it truly represents the grandest version of the greatest vision you have ever held of yourself, then I am happy for you.

The issue isn't me vs. Emile. the question is wheather this thread now represents the ideals and goals that each of you hold dear. If it does, great. If it doesn't, change it.

Your friend,
Mark



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24639)2/22/1999 2:25:00 PM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 39621
 
Hi Alan

Excuse me Shalom but as a Jew I have the right to voice my beliefs when one deems to label Jews the way Emile does.

Yes, Alan you do. You also have the right as a Christian to give up your rights.

Matthew 5:
11 "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Did not Jesus promise persecution?

John 15:
20 Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.
21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.

Turn my heart o Lord to bring honor to the Lamb that was slain!!!!!!!

God Bless

dan