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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dayuhan who wrote (31685)	2/23/1999 10:54:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I agree with you in the abstract. In actual fact, I would rather pay someone else to do the slaughtering of domestic animals, and benefit from the largess of hunters of wild animals. Slaughtering animals is dirty, messy, smelly, and requires a lot of space to do right - mammals, anyway. I don't particularly want to have to deal with hundreds of pounds of meat all by myself, either.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (31685)	2/24/1999 7:02:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Or, to return to our favorite subject, people who like babies but not the process by which they are created. Natural living is wonderful, except it takes up so damned much time that we have few novels or movies of our ancestor's simple natural lives made by them, but fiction that cannot show the outright agony of losing a crop to insects or storms or those darling deer and being hungry next winter, losing children perhaps, as a result. I think vegetarians are more moral than the rest of us. But its only a partial attempt to purify the means of life from cruelty and environmental destruction. Nature is cruel, inexorable, unforgiving, uncaring, ignorant armies clashing by night. Persons choosing to live with it requires arms length struggle. A animal lover who chose to avoid the drugs based on animal exploitation to save his child from death would go too far in his hopeless quest I think.