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To: John Carpenter who wrote (38213)2/24/1999 5:26:00 PM
From: VLAD  Respond to of 95453
 
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! TOOOOOO FUNNY!!! HARDYHARHAR!!



To: John Carpenter who wrote (38213)2/25/1999 9:12:00 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 95453
 
Well let's see if we can catch some FLC @ $5 today -

... maybe 60% of remaining FLC $'s in on a limit buy order @ $5; with a trailing buy set at $4 9/16ths for 30% and save the other 30% for armageddeon, or to add on the way up - youknow when the naybobs jump on ...

Most importantly let's see where we end up returnwise by year end..in FLC.

Now I know - ''year end'' is a virtual-world lifetime for our attention-span deficit crowd who don't look out past the end of their noses; but - let's see if #1 FLC gets there ($5); and most importantly where it finds itself around Christmas...

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Gee - per CNBC, did someone just raise their FY 2000 Nat Gas forecast to $2.75 ? Now what would $2.75 do to EVER's eps hmmmm ? - looks like at least someone was looking far forward...

Did S Korea's growth forecast change in just 55 short days from this past December of a minus -1% growth rate - to a now plus + 2% growth rate ? - a not so insignificant reversal in yet another Asian demand card.... yes; I know it's ohhh so hard for the attention-span deficit Bear crowd to look forward past the end of their noses... and I surely don't expect them to have enough sophistication to really ''hear'' what Greenspan warned about Oil prices, nor to see these catalytic drivers of future Oil prices - as their view of ''Its the Price of Oil - Stupid'' ends about 3mm past the end of their noses... !

Gee; now what happens if JAPAN - would surprise !? Is the risk/reward ratio more in favor of Japan's growth/demand falling farther ; or rising and increasing demand ?
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And once again; It's the forward looking expectations of the price of Oil and Natural Gas that ''REALLY" determines the direction and prices here... My main point is given the indisputable 3 run ups of late in the Oilpatch - ( which by the way; was into the face of terrible fundamentals - much worse than today, with many, many more unanswered questions at that time); showed that one can miss 30-40-50% runs in days - if one chooses to wait for ''the price of Oil-Stupid'' fundamentals to appear ! Yes; sometimes the platitude of ''It's the Price of Oil-Stupid'' makes us feel warm & fuzzy, it sure makes a great & catchy tag line; but unfortunately in the real world - it just happens to be a little more complex and forward looking than that...

The choice is simplistic; look far forward to the key indicators that determine Oil Price ''Expectations'' and accept some risk - weighing the risk vs. reward scenario; and buy cheap - or wait untill the entire world (even John Carpenter <VBG>) recognizes that Oil fundamentals have fully recovered and re-buy at price levels that I will be able to profitably sell to you at , or else where you get to get whipsawed by the profit taking, head faking and Mo-Mo train jumping...!

Low stockprices and positive fundamentals DO NOT and CAN NOT exist simultaneously in the Oilpatch !

Two basic question arise; do I want to buy cheap in a negative sentiment/fundamental enviroment; or do I want to buy high in a positive sentiment/fundamental enviroment ? Obviously - the 2nd question is at what point does the risk vs. reward/return ratio turn in my favor and what is my ''gutcheck-pain threshold'' - nothing more simplistic than that... Are you a ''value'' investor, or a ''momenteum'' investor and how has history rewarded each type of investor in the Oilpatch's past downturns...?

I think history has shown us where the ''Buffetesque'' returns are found... and it ''aint'' when everyone recognizes a positive fundamental enviroment - it ''aint'' where everyone was yelling buy ! - and it ''WAS" where the Nattering Naybobs of Negativity were at their Zenith and the pain thereshold was high.

I don't think 'ole Warren bought Silver when everyone was bullish ; think Buffet was swayed by the Nattering Naybobs of Negativity who kept yelling - IT's THE PRICE OF SILVER -STUPID ! .... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and yes; even Warren had to in essence - ''call a bottom'' when he decided to buy into a downturn...

once again; I would be worried here only if - it appeared the masses ''got it'' .

PS - when do I plan on selling ? Target Prices ? - well obviously; when John Carpenter & Happle <VBG> start buying !!!!!!!!!!!! .



To: John Carpenter who wrote (38213)2/26/1999 12:24:00 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
Well John, I guess your crow will be cooked how? Or are you just going to eat it raw.

LOL.

Actually FLC's 15.5% gain today doesn't really surprise me. As I posited last night, anyone holding into the earnings report isn't likely too bearish. I'd guess that the weakness prior to earnings were people driven mad with fear.

Clearly in part it was a relief rally.