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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Carpenter who wrote (11869)	2/24/1999 10:41:00 PM
From: Razorbak	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

John, You're missing the point. If Clinton actually did the things she says he did, the requirements for assault appear to have been met in addition to the requirements for battery and rape. Read the definition carefully; they don't appear to be mutually exclusive like you suggest. Therefore, your hypothesis of Kendall's legal parsing doesn't hold water. Otherwise, I agree with you that Clinton/Kendall can (and have) parse(d) their way out of almost everything. Razor

To: John Carpenter who wrote (11869)	2/24/1999 10:49:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Respond to of 13994

Even though the media is only too happy to print Clinton's lies, and those of his Press secretary, I doubt that anyone expected anything other than a standard blanket denial in the case of Broaddrick. If it ever went to court, he would simply say he lied to protect his family. It worked the first time, and it would probably work the second time. The unfortunate truth is that, like people adored Hitler, they also adore Clinton, and they simply point to Clinton's "great" speeches, and how smooth and genuine they sound--again, just like Hitler. Hitler was a very convincing orator--so much so that the German ppl brushed aside rumors of atrocities. Now we see how the situation in Germany could possibly have happened. Today we can't see how ppl could possibly have allowed themselves to be led down the primrose path with blinders firmly in place...but I for one now can see how it can happen. Lying in court, lying to the American ppl, false accusations made against detractors, sending private investigators after potential bad-publicity ppl like Elizabeth Ward Gracen and the woman that got groped in the WH, paying off convicted felons so they won't sing, even though they promised to cooperate (Webster Hubbel): Clinton supporters brush all this off and say "but did you hear his last speech; the man is so wonderful".

To: John Carpenter who wrote (11869)	2/24/1999 11:05:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Respond to of 13994

Ok, I read the definition of assault in Razor's post. But from that we see that assault itself is indeed a crime. I would guess that an assault charge could arise if for example I had a water pistol in my jacket pocket, and then I pulled the cloth tight over it to show someone the outline of it, then told them to do something that they didn't want to do. I wouldn't be touching them, or perhaps I wouldn't even be committing the crime of "Branishing a weapon", although I'm guessing on that one. The bottom line is, what Kendall meant was that the Slickster is innocent of any and all accused illegal actions in the past, now, and in the future, period, so just quit harassing our dear leader.

To: John Carpenter who wrote (11869)	2/26/1999 2:42:00 PM
From: Joe Hoofnagle	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 13994

The statement said the "President" didn't assault Mrs. Broaderick 21 years ago. Jimmy Carter was the "President" 21 years ago, and the lady's name was Mrs. Hickey. Hence, the statement is true (or at least not legally incorrect.)

To: John Carpenter who wrote (11869)	3/2/1999 3:15:00 PM
From: Les H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

New Woman, New Charges Sexgate was supposed to be over, but a Clinton acquaintance now alleges he once assaulted her BY ADAM COHEN Time Just when the air was clearing in Washington--when politicians were finally putting aside the presidential sex scandal and moving on to Social Security and tax cuts--another woman has come forward alleging sexual misconduct by Bill Clinton. Corroboration is scant, the White House denials are emphatic, but this tale has an unpleasant new twist: it is a charge of sexual assault. In a report published last week, Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas nursing-home operator, clarified rumors that have been circulating for years. She contends that in 1978 Bill Clinton, who was then the Arkansas attorney general, forced himself on her. At the time, she was a 35-year-old volunteer in his campaign for Governor. She finally broke her silence, she told TIME, "because of all the misinformation" that was being spread about her, not because of Clinton's just-concluded impeachment trial. "I could care less what happens to the man," she says. "I just did this for myself and for my family." Reporters have been chasing her story at least since the 1992 presidential campaign, but Broaddrick has always refused to talk. In March 1998 she was referred to as Jane Doe No. 5 in Paula Jones' sexual-harassment case, having earlier submitted an affidavit denying the "rumors and stories" surrounding herself and Clinton. (She now says she wanted to avoid the glare of publicity.) She recanted that affidavit in an interview last year with Ken Starr's investigators, but would not describe details of the alleged attack. Starr made little mention of her in his report to Congress, saying her account was inconclusive. But during impeachment proceedings, her story was made available to Congress for private inspection. Last week the precise details of the allegation were published in the Wall Street Journal's vociferously conservative opinion pages, and other media outlets quickly followed with their own stories. Broaddrick's accusations are sordid. On a business trip to Little Rock, she and Clinton planned to meet in a hotel coffee shop to talk. To avoid reporters, he suggested they talk in her room. After a brief conversation, she claims, he pulled her onto the bed and forced her to have sex, biting her upper lip and causing it to bruise and swell. Clinton then told her not to worry because, as a result of childhood mumps, he was sterile. The last thing Clinton said as he put on his sunglasses and walked out, according to Broaddrick, was that she should get some ice for her swollen mouth. Broaddrick told TIME that she's speaking out to set the record straight. She was particularly upset when the Jones camp made public a letter alleging that there was a "pay off" to keep her silent and when the Jones attorneys said on TV that she had been "bribed and intimidated." The Star newspaper repeated these charges, Broaddrick says, and then "I see this crazy Lucianne Goldberg on TV saying that I was profusely bleeding and had to be rushed to the hospital." That didn't happen, she says, and there was never any hospital record. She never reported the alleged crime to police because, she says, given the circumstances she did not think she would be believed. "I felt very responsible for allowing him to come to my room," she says. After the incident, Broaddrick says, Clinton made several attempts to make amends. In 1984, when her nursing home was named best in the state, Governor Clinton scrawled "I admire you very much" on the official letter. In 1991 she was called out of a conference to find Clinton waiting for her and asking what he could do to make things right. She rebuffed him. After turning away legions of reporters, Broaddrick decided to sit down for a taped interview with NBC's Lisa Myers on Jan. 20. The network's delay in airing it angered Broaddrick, so she turned to Journal editorial-board member Dorothy Rabinowitz to tell her story. NBC insists that it has not killed the story but is just trying to confirm Broaddrick's charges to its satisfaction. "The story is not dead," an NBC executive told TIME. "We're working it hard." The White House last week issued a firm denial. "Any allegation that the President assaulted Mrs. Broaddrick more than 20 years ago is absolutely false," said David Kendall, Clinton's personal lawyer. With impeachment over and the statute of limitations on the alleged crime long passed, the story seems unlikely to have much traction. Broaddrick herself says, "I'm just hoping this absolutely goes away in the next week." A weary nation would probably agree. --REPORTED BY JAY BRANEGAN, KAREN TUMULTY AND MICHAEL WEISSKOPF/WASHINGTON