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To: bry57 who wrote (104748)2/24/1999 11:52:00 PM
From: Annette  Respond to of 176387
 
Come ON ...
just STOP it!



To: bry57 who wrote (104748)2/25/1999 12:34:00 AM
From: Uncle Frank  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
Bryan, your profile identifies you as a Pastor of His Church. If you are truly leading a flock using these types of ill phrased, mean spirited admonitions, what a sad group of lost souls they must be.

Frank



To: bry57 who wrote (104748)2/25/1999 1:30:00 AM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
bry57......."Rely NOT on your own understanding"...May you be Peaceful..and at Ease.......Tim



To: bry57 who wrote (104748)2/25/1999 12:11:00 PM
From: Don Martini  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 176387
 
Is Voltaire going to HELL? ... YES! Temperature = 55 Degrees. Bryan asserted: "You're HELL bound"

U.S. CATHOLIC Magazine quoted Methodist clergyman Robert Short: "There are so many strong biblical, doctrinal and logical arguments against the existence of a literal hell that this question naturally arises: Why do the churches teach it and why do people believe it? ... The churches tend to believe that fear, rather than love, conquers all." April 1980 pages 37-40.

People become like the god they worship. This demonic myth has supplied philosophic justification for the Crusades, Inquisition and genocidal exterminations of defenseless populations in our time: After all, God will fry them, so a dab of napalm to accelerate the process must be OK! I'll put it in verse:

God, With Fire in His Eye
Will see that You Fry
After you Die
Just You, Not I!

In a pig's Eye! The plain Bible teaching is:

The living know that they shall die, the dead know not anything
There is no work nor wisdom nor knowledge in the grave wither thou goest
They shall be as though they had not been
His breath goeth forth, in that very day his thoughts perish
They shall sleep a perpetual sleep and not wake
In death there is no remembrance of thee

Ecclesiastes 9:5&10, Obadiah 16, Psalm 146:4 Jeremiah 51:39&57 Ps.6:5

This satanic doctrine has traumatized millions of children and adults was manufactured by mistranslation of 4 Greek & Hebrew words. "Hell" appears 53 times in the King James Version; is translated from:

SHEOL: Means the grave, unseen state, occurred 65 times in Heb. text
HADES: Greek equivalent of SHEOL, 10 times
GEHENNA [11 times in original greek]: City dump outside Jerusalem into which dead criminals were sometimes thrown to be consumed by maggots or sulfured fires. Symbol of eternal destruction, same as the "everlasting fire" or "lake of fire" explained in context as the "second death" that is, with no resurrection hope. We use symbols too: HCl + NaOH = NaCl + H2O. Hydrochloric acid + Lye yields salt & water

Jesuit John McKenzie says in his fine Dictionary of the Bible under "Gehenna"
"Valley of the son of Hinnom ... The name probably is that of the original Jebusite owner of the property. The valley had an unholy reputation because it was the site of Tophet, a cultic shrine where human sacrifice was offered. Because of this cult Jeremiah cursed the place and predicted that it would be a place of death and corruption ... In rabbinical literature ... it is a place where the wicked are destroyed body and soul.

The Church of England, producer of the KJV, has since emphatically renounced the doctrine of eternal torture. The plain Bible teaching is death = sleep, from which some will be resurrected. As Martha said to Jesus when her brother Lazarus died: I know he will rise, in the resurrection, in the last day." John 11

Modern versions often transliterate SHEOL as Sheol. The Catholic Douay Version consistently used "hell" 63 times; so we find Job praying to go to hell: Who would grant me this, that thou mayest protect me in hell? Jacob, hearing Joseph was dead mourned: I will go down to my son in hell Dy: Job 14:13 Gen 37:35, 42:38 44:29

Never does the bible teach that humans possess an immortal soul. Not once is it [nephesh] described as immortal, deathless, everlasting, eternal, undying, etc. Over 100 times Bible speaks of the soul dying. [ Ezekiel 18:4&20, Revelation 16:3] The first 4 times NEPHESH occurs it's applied to animals, in Genesis 1. The KJV confuses by translating the 740+ Nephesh occurences 33 different ways: life, creature, soul, man, any, appetite, beast, person, etc. Only the New World Translation reflects the original: rendering Nephesh and Psuche [Greek] 100% as Soul. Sheol, Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus are transliterated. As a young man I worked for a cemetery, the year round temp in Sheol is about 55F.

TO ALL READERS: PM me for some fine documentation on this vital subject which I'll snail mail right away. God is Love, Bryan! "How excellent is thy lovingkindness!"
1 John 4:8 Ps 36:7

Don