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To: Elmer who wrote (50973)	2/25/1999 2:27:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 1572159

Good one... mit.edu}/job/interview

To: Elmer who wrote (50973)	2/25/1999 4:52:00 PM
From: Yousef	Respond to of 1572159

Elmer, Re: "AMD specs the case temp at 65 deg C while generating more than 30 Watts? You have to move a whole lot a heat away to keep it that cool." Elmer, I wonder what the "heat sink" looks like on that package ... I'll bet it looks like a "brick" <ggg> ... Or ... a "pile". Make It So, Yousef

To: Elmer who wrote (50973)	2/25/1999 6:05:00 PM
From: RDM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572159

<You have to move a whole lot a heat away to keep it that cool.> While 27 watts is substantial, it is much easier today than a few years ago. These new attached chip fans and air handling of the ATX cases (thank you Intel) make it a straightforward job at a low cost. I woulld like the power to be less than 20 watts from a elegance point of view. Realistically, I am not sure that I would pay much for that. The chip is 118mm sq. rather than large Pentium III die and is $150 cheaper for the 450/500 Mhz performance level. Not a home run, but a solid base hit. The power may scale down to perhaps 14 watts in .18 micron at 450 Mhz. Of course, in reality, 550/600 Mhz versions will consume closer to twenty watts in .18 micron and this is still competitive. It looks like mask v10 is a winner and v16 in six months will keep the momentum rolling. Of course it is not your first choice for a military spec. environment, but few PCs need that.

To: Elmer who wrote (50973)	2/26/1999 2:37:00 AM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1572159

Elmer, re:<Did you notice how AMD specs the case temp at 65 deg C while generating more than 30 Watts? You have to move a whole lot a heat away to keep it that cool.> The Coolermaster DP5-5021 is spec'ed to dissipate 35 watts with a case ambient temperature of 41-45 degC and keep the CPU below 65 degC. coolermaster.com This is the fan listed at thechipmerchant.com (erroneously) as the "Coolermaster Draco 1521." It costs $6.50. I've bought a few. Petz