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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (35815)	2/26/1999 12:06:00 AM
From: Brad Bolen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Pilch, >>> The public has never been wrong concerning the things it wants to legally buy. Hmm, then what's all this fuss about Government spending? <<<Many conservatives are against America's public school system >>>for a number of reasons, one of which is the fact that despite >>>the ever increasing billions of dollars taken from them to spend >>>on our current system, American students are becoming >>>increasingly as dumb as rocks. Yes, and I have not doubt that it is the reasons for that that we would disagree profoundly on. Around here it is usual to blame the teachers first. Let the free enterprise system work ,Johannes, except when it is convenient to you for it not too. Need a better programmers at Motorola but having a hard time finding them? CEO: "we can't keep enough programmers." CFO: we need to offer more competitive salaries, sir." CEO: no no, we need to see results from the guys we have first, THEN we will offer better salaries." Of course that is ridiculous in a competitive environment, but it is the very argument a recent Governor made when it was suggested that the state couldn't get better teachers. What that public deserves is for every public school teacher to place their books on the table and say 'you don't deserve us'. >>> You merely claim it fact that these organizations are worthy as >>>if we must ipso facto believe they indeed are. By what standard >>>do we judge their worthiness? >>>Every dollar spent is a vote of confidence in value. How do we judge the worthiness of anything? ...on whether or not it makes money? How typical. >>>Who is to say what is worth keeping if it is not the public? I am >>>a classical musician by hobby, and a darn good >>>one too. But I certainly would not presume my interests so >>>important to society that I must force it to pay for >>>them simply because I think society too stupid to know what is good for itself... Such humility. I doubt anyone should be forced to hear you play either, Johannes. But they should be forced to have an education and have the tools made available to get it. Which was my original point. I support arts (publically) in so far as I support education. Ignorance isn't bliss. You should be forced to understand how to add and subtract to the betterment of us all. Spare us the profane artists routine. (Tainted blood thrown at the audience? glad I wasn't there for that one.) >>> The NEA in effect aims to add to that repository by coercive >>>methods, forcing a whole country to act as if certain works of >>>"art" are worth creating, publicly displaying and preserving. I just saw a listing of supported artists by the Texas Endowment. I was amazed at the number of country singers, musicals etc. that were being funded. I might argue that those things aren't worthy either. Even your own Lipman would roll over in his grave. But don't tell me there isn't something there for everyone that isn't worth my few bucks. >>> I suggest you work to produce something this barbarian can understand. Or it isn't worth anything? Heh, heh, I have enough futile challenges in my life right now, Johannes. >>>Where are the Beethovens, the Bachs, the Mahlers, the Mozarts, >>>the Prokofievs? They have all grown lazy, fat and mediocre >>>because they are no longer held accountable to the tastes of the people. Wow, maybe you should study some music history before I dare touch that one. Besides, they are around. It is just that their ideas progressed and yours maybe didn't, so you don't understand what you don't understand. It has nothing to do with 'like'. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to appreciate the importance of rocket science. >>>Let the artists starve. Not even a piece of cake? Eat your veggies, they are good for you. B.