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To: Edwarda who wrote (31911)	3/2/1999 10:24:00 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

I applaud that. I just like to mention the hypocrisy of the messianic types who want to take Christ to their bosom, so to speak. I think it is very important to point out the shortcomings of others and to turn a blind eye to one's own foibles.

To: Edwarda who wrote (31911)	3/2/1999 1:07:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I agree that he stuck up for the poor - But I'm not sure about the word "advocate". In the modern Jesse Jackson sense, an advocate wants to say that the constituency (in our example the poor) is morally superior. I don't get that from the New Testament. A strong message for moral parity - but Jesus hung with the rich as readily. I believe there just were fewer rich people around, and this provides the appearance of bias. I see no evidence of a moral handicap of the rich. The business with the eye of the needle - I think this is more about the rich having interests to defend, and early Christianity required of its followers a 100% submission event, not unlike Islam. A rich person pondering conversion would naturally wonder about the continuity of his worldly interests. But I think this was a psychological insight, not a statement of policy or morality. The rich had access to the Kingdom, and they were not required to open their coffers to the congregation. They were encouraged to help the needy - but I don't see compelling evidence that they were subjected to a sort of communal arrangement. A religion which argues for tne inherent worth of every human is going to look like a religion of the poor, simply because the numbers work for the poor.