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To: Ron Wilhoit who wrote (8824)3/3/1999 8:33:00 PM
From: Sean W. Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11149
 
Ron,

great.

you can check the delays to both sites using several methods...

tip 1.

using ping to measure the time it takes to send a packet to a remote host and have it echoed back to you.

[d:\util\4nt]ping -?

Usage: ping [-t] [-a] [-n count] [-l size] [-f] [-i TTL] [-v TOS]
[-r count] [-s count] [[-j host-list] | [-k host-list]]
[-w timeout] destination-list

Options:
-t Ping the specifed host until interrupted.
-a Resolve addresses to hostnames.
-n count Number of echo requests to send.
-l size Send buffer size.
-f Set Don't Fragment flag in packet.
-i TTL Time To Live.
-v TOS Type Of Service.
-r count Record route for count hops.
-s count Timestamp for count hops.
-j host-list Loose source route along host-list.
-k host-list Strict source route along host-list.
-w timeout Timeout in milliseconds to wait for each reply.

try something like:

ping -n 100 -l 1024 www.qp2.com

Pinging www.qp2.com [208.240.130.216] with 1024 bytes of data:

Reply from 208.240.130.216: bytes=1024 time=80ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.240.130.216: bytes=1024 time=71ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.240.130.216: bytes=1024 time=80ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.240.130.216: bytes=1024 time=70ms TTL=53

You should get a response for each back. If you get no reply packets are being dropped somewhere. This can definetely cause slow connections.

the next step is to use trace route to look at the path to your destination....

tracert www.qp2.com

You might see something like follows....

6 40 ms 40 ms 30 ms digex-gw.cisco.com [209.48.178.1]
7 30 ms 40 ms 41 ms rdu2-core1-h2-0-0.atlas.digex.net [209.48.176.5]
8 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms clt1-core2-h1-0.atlas.digex.net [165.117.52.158]
9 40 ms 50 ms 50 ms atl2-core1-s9-0-0.atlas.digex.net [165.117.50.37]
10 60 ms 50 ms 41 ms 209.49.169.250
11 50 ms 40 ms 50 ms int-5500.interland.net [216.25.127.50]
12 40 ms 50 ms 50 ms quotes-plus.com [208.240.130.216]

Each line represents one hop that your packet took. It displays the IP address of the router (name is optional) and then from left to right. max time, nom time, min time... Compare the # of both sites. Look for large increases across a path. This is a slow path or one that is congested. Pinging this host may often result in dropped packets. The first hop going across your modem link should be the slowest anywhere from 250-350 ms ping time for normal operation.

trace route also has command flags...

tracert -?

Usage: tracert [-d] [-h maximum_hops] [-j host-list] [-w timeout] target_name

Options:
-d Do not resolve addresses to hostnames.
-h maximum_hops Maximum number of hops to search for target.
-j host-list Loose source route along host-list.
-w timeout Wait timeout milliseconds for each reply.

BTW: If anyones wondering why help is '-?' in stead of '/?' as is the DOS standard. these utilities originated on unix and '-' is the default option flag. I guess MS didn't think them worth fixing... :)

trying to explain all the uses of the flags and various debug techniques is beyond the scope of this thread. unfortunately I have not found a good online introductory to the subject I can recommend. Most books on MS NT server include some minimal introduction to TCPIP.

Sean