To: sdr who wrote (6270 ) 3/6/1999 7:20:00 PM From: bob Respond to of 8581
From our friend Keith Wooten on USENET. Lively discussion on what would be the most cost effective and efficient solution for running java, ie; picoJava, strongArm, or PSC10000, the strongARM representing a general purpose processor needing a JIT: Re: Sun opens picoJava and SPARC design sources Author: Keith Wootten <Keith@wootten.demon.co.uk> Date: 1999/03/05 Forum: comp.lang.java.machine sponsored by: more headers author posting history -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In article <7bmmnn$5e3@edrn.newsguy.com>, steve@blighty.com writes >In article <36e1c4b5.73617746@news.bctel.ca>, roedy@mindprod.com says... >> >>On 4 Mar 1999 14:28:22 GMT, lindahl@pbm.com (Greg Lindahl) wrote: >> >>> >>>Yes. But to belabor the obvious, using a general purpose processor >>>with a JVM might produce much higher performance at the cost of only a >>>modest increase in ram use. The answer of "which is better?" then >>>depends on the details. >> >>If you use a JIT, you need the RAM for the JIT and the JITTED code on >>top of the original code. This is not the sort of thing you want in a >>cellphone where battery life is also a consideration. > >But if using JIT lets you use a processor with a cleaner architecture >and better implementation, so saving lots of power over native java... > > PicoJava-II: 3W springs to mind for one 0.25u implementation, but I don't > have firm figures to hand. > > StronArm SA-1100: 250mW @ 200MHz in an older 0.35u technology. > Patriot PSC1000: 165mW @ 100MHz @ $10 in 0.5um, 0.35um soon. >...then JIT is still a big win over native java in low power applications. Only if you ignore what seems to be the best solution, that is, a general purpose stack processor optimised for Java. Cheers -- Keith Wootten