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To: Jim K. who wrote (693)	3/4/1999 2:34:00 PM
From: Jim K.	Respond to of 972

To All: This is the post # 359 I referred to above: ____________________________________________ To: Jim K. (358 ) From: Pageup Sunday, Jul 19 1998 12:09AM ET Reply # 359 Jim, I studied crumb rubber technology a few years ago on the west coast as a possible business venture. Its primary function was to recycle the rubber from literally millions of old tires available for virtually nothing (but shipping costs).... the primary target was as an asphalt supplement. It is so effective that it literally gives asphalt the long term durability of rubber. Virtually no cracking, potholes, etc. It is a well proven technology, but its only drawback is the additional cost of the crumb rubber... ie, somebody's gotta make some money on it, and with competitive bidding for roads the way it is, and with governmental budgets looking to pay for welfare first and roads second, the viewpoint from that perspective is they'd rather have potholed roads to keep their public works people employed.... In otherwords, it makes too much sense to do it. This may not necessarily reflect the prevailing attitude of local governmental entities as of today, but it is the primary reason that I didn't start buying tire stripping machines. It's one heck of a product though.... and it's like getting electricity from a waterfall, almost free. Anyone that is successful in this industry has certainly done their homework, because this is something that must be SOLD, and sold hard. There are other applications that I can't remember too well (my venture into it was around 1990), but I'm sure someone else reading this thread may have some additional input. Regards, Brian

To: Jim K. who wrote (693)	3/4/1999 4:23:00 PM
From: John R Resseger	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 972

Jim Scrap rubber from discarded tires present a unique problem for world waste management regulatory bodies. They offer ideal breeding locations for insects and are a dangerous fire hazard when stockpiled. In North America alone, over 250 million tires are discarded annually. Tipping fees levied by regional governments do nothing to ensure the safe disposal of the tires, and, on the contrary, create a new problem in illegal dumping. Available technologies subject the tires to mechanicall shredding and grinding, resulting in at best crumb rubber, suitable only as road surface filler and other limited "value-added" applications. Cryogenic preprocessing methods in use presently tend to be expensive and still result in no greater than -200 mesh. FASC's communication with large tire manufacturing companies has indicated that a consistent production grade of -240 mesh is most desirable for incorporation into new tire products and high performance emulsions. Current price levels for this grade of rubber average US$.50 per pound. With crumb rubber readily available at approximately US$.10 per pound delivered, each machine, with a projected processing rate of 2 tons per hour, will be capable of generating revenues of US$1,600 per hour before operating, packaging and preprocessing costs. First American is still in the developmental stage of this product, and a functioning prototype is expected sometime next year. I wonder how the two compare? John