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To: Sam who wrote (8200)3/5/1999 1:37:00 PM
From: MikeM54321  Respond to of 9980
 
From today's Bloomberg: "Supporting that view [no Fed hike], an article in Business Week said Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan doesn't see much reason to increase U.S. rates, partly because he's still afraid a new financial shock could send the global economy reeling. The magazine cited unidentified people familiar with Greenspan's thinking as its source."
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Sam and Thread,
Speaking of Alan Greenspan, any speculation on what AG means by a, "new financial shock?" Pure 100% guess on my part, but I'm wondering if he is worried about the China devaluing the yuan.
MikeM(From Florida)



To: Sam who wrote (8200)3/5/1999 5:56:00 PM
From: Stitch  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9980
 
Sam,
<<Well, this has been alluded to by AG and others. We are actually benefitting in this regard by the closed Asian markets. Since Western companies were limited in their exports to the region, the damage that could have been caused by the crisis was limited, and the benefits from the devaluations increased, as the cost of goods went down so dramatically. To take one example that I am familiar with: when the Thai devaluation occurred in July 97, Seagate announced a big hit to their earnings because they had, being the largest private employer in Thailand, dabbled in the baht futures market on the wrong side. But they claimed that the hit they would have to take would be offset by the decrease in their operating expenses. Whether that transpired or not is impossible for me to say (since ASPs in the disk drive market took a dive for many reasons), but it indicates the two sided nature of the crisis for the US.>>

I think I can comment here. There is just no doubt that American companies operating over here have had a significant shot in the arm from lowered operating costs. That SEG's dabbling in Thai Baht and Malaysian Ringiit cost them a $66M write off back in late 1997 is a matter of record. It looked terribly alarming then and brought the so-called "Asia crisis" into focus for me. But at the same time, the U.S. dollar, which was exchanged for 2.50 Ringiit before the currency devaluation here, was suddenly going for about 4.10 to the dollar (and is now at 3.80). Keep in mind that SEG is the largest single private employer in Malaysia and Thailand even after a 20% world-wide layoff. Using Malaysia as an example, where SEG employment is at approximately 16,000 those employees suddenly cost 60% less then before. I will make a rough estimate of the average pay + benefits per employee at Rm 23,000 per year. The simple math is impressive. Fifty million dollars savings in Malaysia alone in the first year since the devaluation by my rough estimates. Add Thailand where Seagate employs 32,000 people and Singapore with 8,000 and you begin to get an idea what a boon it has been.

Mike's comment (Then there's that old argument about Asia's problems keeping world inflation down to the almost non-existent level. I don't think I can recall anyone 19 months ago predicting how incredibly well this appears to have worked!") deserves noting but we may need to also understand another factor in the lid on inflation. I refer to oil prices. While Asian decline in oil consumption has , no doubt, contributed heavily to this there may be more involved. The following are some recent comments to Wall Street analysts by Bob Palmer, Chairman, CEO, and President of Rowan Companies, a preeminent oil driller:

"During a previous collapse of Rowan's stock price, the hot stock was an IPO called Boston Chicken. We needed to do something to create
interest in our stock. I suggested that we change the name of Rowan
to Rowan Chicken, or at least to Boston Drilling Company. Well, it
sounded good at the time.

But then times changed, and for a few years Rowan's drilling division
enjoyed a place in the sun as the stock rose from less than $5 a share
to over $40 per share. But that was about 15 months ago -- the world
has changed and our stock is now less than $9 a share.

The Big Question is Why? And is there a Game Plan?

Why? -- "It's the price of oil."

If you are serious about understanding the seemingly irrational
fluctuations of the price of oil and gas, I believe there are three
books that are a "must read".

First, of course, is Daniel Yergin's excellent book "The Prize: The
Epic Quest for Oil, Money and Power"
.

Second, is Peter Schweizer's carefully documented story of the Reagen
administration's secret strategies that hastened the collapse of the
Soviet Union. The name of the book is "Victory". A key strategy was to drive down the Soviet hard currency earnings through the collapse of oil and gas prices -- and it worked.

And finally,"A World Transformed" by George Bush and Brent Scrowcroft.

After reading these books it is easy to understand why oil and gas
prices are once again collapsing. The simple fact is -- It is in the
best interest of the current U.S. government administration.

Low energy prices accomplish two things. They artificially boost the
economy -- since most businesses and voters are energy consumers --
and low prices harm most of those countries who are, or could be,
considered adversaries of the United States.

The total amount of surplus production, worldwide, is about 2.0
million barrels. Iraq is responsible for the entire amount. The
United States is bombing useless targets in Iraq on a weekly basis,
but the message from the Administration is -- keep oil prices
depressed, or else."


I think we need to understand all this very well. A political resolution in Iraq and an Asia recovery could re-ignite inflation with a vengeance. Suddenly things would look familiar again. Yes?

Best,
Stitch