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To: Scott Sterling who wrote (31216)	3/7/1999 10:41:00 AM
From: Yousef	Respond to of 33344

Scott, Re: "Sorry to have to report these things ..." Very informative post, Scott ... Many of the issues you described go back to the IC process performance and test/reliability methodology used to "guardband" the CPU's. Obviously, Cyrix has reduced their margins so that their customers see many more problems than Intel or even AMD customers. This just reflects the fact that Cyrix doesn't have access to a "state of the art" IC process that can achieve the proper speed/performance without reducing the "guardbanding". You're exactly right Scott ... Why choose Cyrix for $15 savings ?? Make It So, Yousef

To: Scott Sterling who wrote (31216)	3/7/1999 5:32:00 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 33344

Scott, I'm sorry to hear of your poor experiences. Mine have been just the opposite and pretty much trouble free. I'm sure companies like Compaq and IBM put the MX/MII design through much more rigorous testing than all the do-it-yourselfers in the world combined and concluded that the chip was suitable for shipping in their systems. I do agree that the cost/performance advantage Cyrix chips once offered has evaporated to nil. This is evidenced in the lack of systems you can buy at retail. The MXi has a chance of rectifying this, but it better start shipping pronto. Bob

To: Scott Sterling who wrote (31216)	3/7/1999 6:59:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 33344

Scott, The only problem I've had with a Cyrix system is sometimes the system freezes after exiting the internet/Netscape Navigator (win 95b). Frozen mouse. I have to reboot. Any ideas what's happening? The intel systems I have freeze more often but I can't totally blame it on the chip. Jim

To: Scott Sterling who wrote (31216)	3/8/1999 1:25:00 PM
From: AB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 33344

Scott, re the bad MII-300. Why immediately blame Cyrix testing for the bad chip? Which vendor was it purchased from? How do you know that it wasn't mishandled by the reseller and/or a customer who returned it after trying to overclock it, etc? Also, I know saving $15 doesn't sound like much, but I work for a co that sells chips to the disk drive industry, and these guys beat on us to shave pennies!! off prices. The OEM's in turn beat on them to shave a few dollars off their prices. I know NSM needs to move along the speed curve, but if they can make money selling $40-$60 chips, then they may still have a future. Remember that AMD seems to need an ASP of about $100 just to break even. Anthony