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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (24144)3/7/1999 12:23:00 PM
From: Jerry Olson  Respond to of 50167
 
Iqbal.....

great post my friend...these numbers are burned hard into my brain...

i trust them with all my money<gggg>...

"magican blokes"??? LOL..i'll add that to "peeping shorts"....:>}

my regards.......have a safe trip...



To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (24144)3/8/1999 12:31:00 AM
From: Neil H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
IQ

Interesting article from Raging Bull site.

WILL PC MAKERS SOON CHALLENGE THE WEB'S LEADING PORTALS AND E-TAILERS?

Most savvy Internet users think of sites like Amazon.com and CDnow as the
Web's consumer e-commerce leaders. Say the word "portal," and they
immediately think of Yahoo!, Excite, Lycos and Infoseek. Mention ISPs, and
they will rattle off a list of national providers that includes
heavyweights like AOL, MindSpring and Earthlink.

But are these Web users' e-commerce, portal and ISP preferences about to
change? That's what the nation's three largest PC makers - Dell, Gateway
and Compaq - are hoping. These three companies have made significant
strides toward becoming players on the Web over the past few weeks.

With PC prices continuing to fall, PC makers are coming to the realization
that they are selling a commodity product that offers them increasingly
smaller margins on every sale.

What do PC manufacturers do to strengthen their bottom lines? First, they
re-evaluate their core strengths. Yes, the average PC price continues to
decline, but the crown jewel of these three companies is each one's unique
opportunity to build a direct and potentially rewarding relationship with
the consumer. Compaq, Dell, and Gateway in particular have the potential to
be starting points for a variety of post-sale consumer add-ons.

Once consumers have opened their wallets for a new PC, what is to keep them
from letting the same company provide them with a bevy of related services
- including peripheral devices (like printers), software, Internet
connection
and a personalized start page?

Companies like Compaq and Gateway are already flirting with the idea of PCs
as a necessary loss - an offering designed to build a lasting relationship
between PC maker and consumer. This notion casts the initial PC sale as the
glue that binds consumer to manufacturer for additional product and service
sales - where Compaq's and Gateway's real profits will be made in the
future.

Gateway, Dell and Compaq are now attempting to make this scenario a
reality.

GATEWAY:

In early February, Gateway and Yahoo! announced the launch of a co-branded
service. The offering includes a personalized My Yahoo! start page as the
default for Gateway's gateway.net ISP users. In 1997, Gateway launched
their own branded national ISP called gateway.net and made it available to
all Gateway PC customers. In January of this year, Gateway switched over to
using MCI Worldcom's UUNet subsidiary to provide Internet communication
services for their gateway.net ISP.

Then, last week, Gateway announced that they will begin offering free
Internet service for a year via gateway.net with the purchase of many of
their PCs. The company also announced they had taken a 19.9% minority stake
in NECX, an e-commerce site. Together, the companies plan to launch
SpotShop.com to offer Gateway products as well as thousands of peripherals
and software from other manufacturers.

Makes sense... Gateway seeks to attract customers with competitive PC
prices and a free ISP that delivers users straight to Gateway's online
superstore, SpotShop.com. Finally, the company wants to hook users to its
free,
personalized My Yahoo start page. It's a nifty package - and a mere hint at
the comprehensive packages PC makers will cobble together in the coming
months.

DELL COMPUTER:

Today, Dell books close to $14 million in computer sales over its web site
each day and the company had 1.6 million unique visitors to its site in
December, 1998. GTE, AOL and AT&T provide the standard Internet
connectivity package for Dell users and the computer-maker has yet to hint
at plans to roll out its own branded-ISP. Portal site Excite does, however,
provide search and personalization capabilities for many of Dell's PCs.

Dell's most notable e-commerce/portal deal to date is its online store -
called Gigabuys.com - which is set to sell software and peripherals (much
like Gateway's SpotShop.com). Dell has also recently registered the domain
name
'Dellauction.com', but the company is keeping mum about any future plans to
launch an auction site. Dell officials have, however, suggested that
Gigabuys.com may eventually sell PCs from a variety of computer
manufacturers.

Clearly, Michael Dell & Co. are taking a somewhat conservative approach to
the 'branded ISP, customized portal, and online superstore' model that
Gateway is pursuing.

COMPAQ:

This company has made perhaps the biggest push to become a significant
online force, having already announced plans to take its Alta Vista portal
subsidiary public later this year. Compaq's Presario Internet PCs already
feature a
special Internet access keyboard with buttons that push users directly to
various web sites, including Alta Vista, and the company plunked down
approximately $200 million in cash this past January to purchase
Shopping.com, a troubled e-tailer and a product of Bill Gross' idealab!
Internet incubator.

Then, in mid February of this year, Compaq announced it would acquire local
directory guide company Zip2. Ironically, Zip2 had come close to merging
with CitySearch, another idealab! spawned company, in the past. Through the
acquisitions of Shopping.com and Zip2, Compaq is attempting to build a
first tier portal with an emphasis on the local city level. Finally, Compaq
announced a pact this past week with software e-tailer Beyond.com in which
Beyond.com will provide its library of downloadable software via electronic
software delivery to Compaq.com customers. Clearly, Compaq has put two of
the three key components in place - an e-commerce site (Shopping.com) and a
customized portal (AltaVista). Compaq has yet to announce plans for a
branded ISP.

Compaq does appear to be toying with the idea of a free ISP offering of
some fashion, however. After all, Compaq is supplying Free-PC.com (another
Bill Gross idealab! Company) with 10,000 PCs. And free-PC.com has announced
plans to give away 10,000 PCs with a free Internet connection in exchange
for users' personal data and acceptance of small, banner-like
advertisements that will reside on computer screens even when users aren't
online.

NetZero, another idealab! Company, is providing the free national ISP for
Free-PC.com! users in exchange for their acceptance of targeted
advertising. NetZero already boasts over 400,000 subscribers. Could the
company eventually
announce an alliance with Compaq? It is hard to say, especially when such
an alliance might complicate Compaq's existing distribution/bundling
relationships with other ISPs on its Presarios. One thing is clear, Compaq
is happy to partner with idealab! companies.

WILL OTHER PC MAKERS FOLLOW?

Recent Internet initiatives by Gateway, Compaq and Dell are being watched
closely by other PC manufacturers. Will these three PC manufacturers'
strategic moves place them in the same tier as Yahoo! and Excite?

That is unlikely. But in less than two years' time, there is a strong
possibility that these PC makers will be on even footing with many of the
Web's largest e-tailers.

Watch what other PC makers (H-P, Sony, Micron and NEC/Packard Bell in
particular) do in the coming months regarding the Net. Yes, portals like
Excite and Yahoo! will continue to prosper regardless of what the PC makers
may do online, but these are ominous developments for e-tailers like
Cyberian Outpost, Beyond.com and Egghead.

Batten down the hatches, boys. Your worst offline nightmares just hit the
Net, and they will sell a lot more than PCs.

Regards

Neil





To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (24144)3/8/1999 3:42:00 AM
From: steve susko  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Hi Ike,

Is JIm Jubak an Analyst?

Does he have a website?
those stock picks looks good. Most may be appreciate much already.



To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (24144)3/12/1999 3:03:00 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Bhumbo raised a lot of oooh's and ouche's on the thread, but rarely 'bhumbo formations have disappointed . Bhumbo I promised on 7th of march with my definitions of the formations and bhumbo the shorts got.. delvered with pin point bulls eye accuracy.. this 7th march call is market calling the best one can get.. now the point to ponder how high and how lethal this is going to get.. loking at the SP99H close it looks like dangerous formation..I know it is very painful but don't ever stand in face of 'bhumbo formation'..u

You are responding to this message from IQBAL LATIF on Mar 7 1999 12:06PM EST

I think CBS site caters for global equities.

I will be leaving for
Kuwait for next few days I thought to recap market.. I was looking at the various
indexes and I would like to highlight the following very simple levels collected from
various charts.. I see some pre- bhumbo formations it is still in infancy but talking
and highlighting it is must.. however look at Fran's charts and you will see that post
Dec SP99H basing developing, the fact remains that this test of 1278 is the most
critical of all and a failure here without a quick rebound from 1251 would mean
some trouble for this bhumbo, it may die prematurely. New long's should only be
intiated above 1295 area after a double close or 645 on OEX double close.

1.. Composite- 2280 is the support below that I will be careful, and 2400 is the
next resistance if it takes this level out we will see that 2510 high.

2.. In Transportation and Banking was the key of this move, I was highlighting these
two indexes for this very move, the reason I was positive was that BKX and DTX
were not breaking rather their move that is that infamous confluence chart of 50
days and 200 days MA indicated to me that from 311 this DTX is wanting to go
higher, nothing satisfies more than the fact that BKX and DTX did lead this
particular move up..

DTX is moving towards 3360 and support at 3224, a break below this will give you
an early indication of some serious erosion. We need to see some two or three days
close on these indexes, they are lagging indexes as such we may see some false
break consolidation but the trend will remain higher if the supports are not violated.
My whole experience tells me anyone who tells you market is ready for a fall is a
person who is poor in judging markets.

The acid test to know a person's ability is his/her call on future projection, is only
possible with predictions of neatly overlooked levels like my level of 1228. It was
with exception of one day violated that we called a false break but otherwise we
saw most of our levels without getting seriously whipsawed, this is the art to trade
the big momentum down get the big premiums and don't get swayed with the noise.
These 'magicians blokes' by disregarding the most important cardinal principle of the
market to trade within limits and ranges like 1228 to 1290 or 1278 on SPC or that
1935 level on NDX. It is not serious to suggest a big or a small fall without any
consideration of medium supports, how can a person buys a put if 1228 remains
technically solid.

If market projection is 'reasonable art' than I can understand a prediction of a move
with some intermediate supports but to pass a 'summary death warrant' remains
beyond me. Of-course if fundamental picture on macro level changes, judgement lie
a 1000 point or 500 points drop are OK. To be eternally depressed is not my
definition of playing markets. The opportunities lost, as a case of eternal depression
is story of some of these sorry characters. I take exception as SI needs a balanced
view and these 'unbalanced views' should know that someone out their will post
their eternal depressing record one of these days!!

Once if calls are made without any regard to these important supports, rest assure it
is no more market calls, these are what I term as 'fly by night wham - bang good
bye sham calls'. What difference does it make if TXN 18 point move was missed,
they are anyway not interested to invest only to create panic and fear, it is moves
like TXN and CSCO's which provide you with real winners in intra-day
movements. When I called for that big move on TXN CSCO I was hoping for
rebound like this, and these are kind of rebounds one makes good of its labor in the
market.

For any serious investor my advice is 'market is subservient to lot of academic input'
their are no 'short cuts', a persistent performer will do his news well and know the
psychology of the most manipulated market in the world the world of SP99H
trading, learn and see the manipulations as they run trades to stop the innocent big
ego's.

Someone who will know his levels like back of his hand will fearlessly trade them
will see them too. In a trending market you see your levels that is one thing an
investor should learn. If new highs are made that is a bullish sign and if old supports
are taken out it is bearish sign. A bounce of 50 days or 200 days average should
not be traded on opposite side, give some room to trade on side of the bounce with
little generous stop loss. Crating 'TA' is not the subject it is making the right call
more often than not.

It was sad to see that the bounce off DTX at 200 days MA was shorted, when I
was going long it had to be a short and imagine that BKX 750 test of the long
support going back to Dec was even traded on the short side. They got it on the
chin umpteenth time. A trader in non-inflationary growth environment will never
trade 200 days bounce on the opposite side or a test of 1320 composite which was
a two year low, the bond was breaking and I was seeing this huge move up as I
called it but at the same time 'computer' were telling to short, a short which saw
NDX at 1780 in a few weeks.

If any programmer or computer tells you otherwise, just pack those programs away.
It is simple trend-lines and MA's along-with global macro-economic fundamentals
applicable to the market supports and resistance's, once you master that you play
market like a maestro.

OEX 640 is critical we have seen a test but once it is taken out we will see a second
new high been taken out other than DOW, that is one thing you need to be careful.
SP99H 1290 and 1278 will give in my opinion some tough time to this market, I
would think that market at these levels will not accept this huge gap, but
unfortunately since every 'Harry' want's to go long at 1251 now it may be delayed.
If we go down, we will go lower. In these circumstances like on trade issue, mind it
and wait for that 1231 area if it come soon. I think this may possibly be delayed and
another test of 1261 may just be enough to take this 1278 out on SPC.

If this gap is delayed it will come at the most inopportune time, when wounded
guru's may go long may be time to short, when the new 'death dance of the market'
collectively is sung go long. This is conventional wisdom of SI. Let me tell you one
small thing when everyone on SI is bearish just go the other way, it is on percentage
basis 92 calls out 100 of some of these densely bearish guru's on which market will
move exactly the other way, SI is the best contrary indicator.. Long live the bears.

I will like RUT to break this 402 and one can go long to 428 and 448 objective.
Last but least if market breaks 1218 we go lower and test 1185 area. I have been
highlighting for quite some time, if you see that happening don't panic all these trade
wars and looming Chinese devaluation's talk are nothing in comparison to global
trade volume and what we saw in 98. A market which could withstand the ultimate
test of HSI double play and LTCM 100 billion $ fiasco needs lower earnings, big
slow down and a real big strategic tension between Russia and US or China to
break, this is my scenario building for a opposite view.

As far as Russia get their bucks from IMF and they tow the political line dictated by
IMF I see no problems this market if anytime will be hit big it will be politics and
rising global tension otherwise at the moment this looks like going higher.. But any
highs are finally validated by test of lows like a band we see since Dec 98, 1170
and 1290 this is the kind of consolidation which market needs if it is strong enough
to make that assault to new highs.

I think I see a pre- bhumbo formation, I had released my 'bhumbo' on 8th Oct 98
after 28th Oct 97, it is now getting readied and I just htought a fore warning to my
'short' fly by night traders will not be a bad idea.. It is premature but I can see
'bhumbo' engines being ignited, but I will keep in touch with you on formulations and
sensitivities of this bhumbo, for me it has to be BKX DTX NDX RUT PSE targets
which need to be met, once I have them I will release it, right now I have got the
first early signal, but I am still leaving it down..