SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: llamaphlegm who wrote (45106)3/11/1999 12:20:00 AM
From: larry oertel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
>like lonely voices whistling in the wind <

Yes the Bears are getting scarce around here, which I guess is a good contrarian indicator. Did you notice the large ads in USA Today and other papers for shopping.com. They did a price and shipping comparison between their prices and Amazon.com, B&N and others for various books, CD's camera's etc. Very nicely done and quite a eye catcher. To anyone who noticed the ad the message was clear, Amazon.com prices are some of the highest in cyberspace. IMHO this is just the beginning of the on-line price wars. Mr. Greeenburg had this to say today:

Amazon.com (AMZN:Nasdaq): What would happen if a company like, say, Buy.com starts aggressively undercutting Amazon, forcing its margins to fall by half? And Amazon recently raised $1.2 billion in a convertible debt offering. What would happen if it got in a cash squeeze and couldn't make the payments on that loan, or repay that loan? (Just asking.) Eventually it will have to. And Amazon recently bought a stake in drugstore.com, presumably using borrowed money (see the convertible debt). What happens if drugstore.com doesn't deliver the payback Amazon expects? (Fabulous site, by the way; have you seen it? Unfortunately, there are other good drugstore sites, too.)
thestreet.com

Investors are building "castles in the sky" again. I just finished re-reading James O'Shaughnessy's 1996 book, "What works on Wall Street". He basically looked back at 43 years of proprietary S&P data to find out what investment strategies worked and what did not. He looked at 32 different strategies like PE, ROE, EPS, yield Capitalization, Price to book, PSR, rel strength etc. The 5 worst strategies were Low 1-yr relative str, High PSR, High price to Cash flow, High price to book, and in fifth from last High PE (all stocks). The 3 top return strategies were Low PSR (large cap), Low PE (Large cap) and ROE>15 (large cap). The bottom 5 earned much lower returns than Bonds for a much higher Sharpe Ratio (risk).
It goes without saying that except for Low 1-yr rel. str, Internet stocks are priced near the extreme bottom of the study. History has shown that future returns on stocks priced like the internets are not rosy. I'll leave with a quote from Ben Graham, the Father of Security Analysis, a man whose opinion is little valued today.

"People who habitually purchase common stocks at more than about 20 times their average earnings are likely to lose considerable money in the long run"



To: llamaphlegm who wrote (45106)3/11/1999 6:43:00 AM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz  Respond to of 164684
 
llama,

Thanks for reminder to not get carried away by exuberance. But at the moment,the current is going the long way.



To: llamaphlegm who wrote (45106)3/11/1999 7:28:00 AM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Respond to of 164684
 

i realize that w/ glenn's conversion to amzn bull this is a very different board than it was
a few months or even weeks ago ... but


LP,

I am not am AMZN bull. I am going with the momentum for now is all.

Glenn



To: llamaphlegm who wrote (45106)3/11/1999 9:59:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Respond to of 164684
 
>>hjm amzn's market cap, were the stock price to grow @10% of last year's rate would overtake the gdp of the USA in ~ 10 years or so<<
lp, what you say above is true but, If you think I'll bet against God again. Your wrong.
Ps
It's what you said above that scares me on going long.