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To: John Koligman who wrote (53049)3/12/1999 2:08:00 PM
From: Elwood P. Dowd  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 97611
 
John.... just got home. What's going on here? EM holding a cC with Bear-Sterrns @ 3pm. Is that true? Stock has lost its gains and is now unch. El



To: John Koligman who wrote (53049)3/12/1999 2:26:00 PM
From: rupert1  Respond to of 97611
 
John ++++++++OT+++++++++

The Oxford Union Debating Society is traditionally where ambitious chinless wonders prepare themselves for politics. Many of the Prime Ministers or leading conservative politicians started off by being elected as President of the Union. They are pretty obnoxious lot in Oxford terms. It is housed in a building that has become a bit shabby. It has library, dining facilties and bars as well as an ornate parliamentarian style debating chamber with galleries and a throne. It is similar to a students union building. But it is peripheral to the real life of the University. In my many years at Oxford I never knew anybody who actually went there. I used its dinign facilties once or twice to entertain distinguished speakers to a University academic society of which I was an offical. The real Oxford is in the 40 or so colleges, each of which has its own living quarters, chapel, dining room, rooms for fellows and masters, common rooms and playing fields and boathouses on the river. The Union is where the non-intellectuals and the time wasters go.


To survive financially, they have opened the Union to non-University types and especially to the dozens of small private colleges peopled by girls sent there by rich daddy's in the hope that they will meet up with Oxford undergraduates.

In older days, the debates were some of the finest in the country. They would involve leading politicians and some students, debatng in teams and egged on by a boisterous gallery. It is true they wear acadmic gowns and white ties (as we do when we take examinatons). When I was there we had to wear gowns to attend lectures.

But the debates have always had an anarchic element. Hitler was much affected to learn that in one of their debates the students had voted critically of British patriotism. He took it as a sign of the crumbling morale of the ruling classes.

In recent years the Union has learned that it can get cheap publicity and earn itself income to keep its bars open by bringing in celebrities who enjoy headlines back home to the effect that they were invited by Oxford Unviersity to address students. In fact, it is not the University at all.

Monica has a huge tour of the UK - she is going to all the major cities. Contrary to the report you gave there were hundreds of people queueing (lining up) to get her signature from about 6 a.m. a few minutes walk from where I live when she arrived at Harrods a few days ago. But many of them were American. One American women explained that she so admired Clinton she wanted to get Monica's book so she could put it in a frame next to her framed photo of Bill.