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To: The Street who wrote (302)3/13/1999 10:19:00 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 765
 
Street,

After all the arguing and trashing of each other we've been through, it is reassuring to know we have finally found common ground... :0)

What a president might want (any president), and what that president gets, are two different things. American soldiers/sailors are volunteers, not draftees. Thus, they are more free-thinking and willing to take the stance: "This isn't what I signed on for".

The key is not to provide the scenario that would convince the military that they have to get involved. And that is why I find myself concerned about the anti-govt mentality of some members of militia movements.

Confrontation can lead to unleashing a scenario not favorable to preserving our civil rights. There aren't too many soldiers/sailors who desire anarchy over order. And if it requires the temporary confiscation of weapons from unruly citizens, I frankly have to admit I would favor it under order could be restored and cooler heads prevail. But once order is restored, I would also return weapons to those people who were not unruly or threatening violence.

Regards,

Ron



To: The Street who wrote (302)3/13/1999 5:42:00 PM
From: delong  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 765
 
I think you would hard pressed for the military to stand for it under any administration. I have 13 buddies in the military, all branches. These arent jack booting robots, these are normal Americans who would see quite clearly, maybe more clearly than most, what was happening. Any President who would seek to subvert the Constitution would certainly have a Civil War, and I think the fighting would start not in the streets, but on military bases.

On the subject of the dismissal of the 2nd amendment, that is a frightening bending of the intentions of the Bill of Rights which is all too accepted. The Bill of Rights has been twisted so that it has come to be seen as a means of government to protect broad interests, instead of what it is, which is the Constitutional provisions which protect *individuals* from *the government.*