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To: Oblomov who wrote (51755)3/13/1999 12:03:00 PM
From: Mike M2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
AA, not everyone on this thread expects to see product price inflation . The inflation of money and credit primarily went into the financial markets. I do not expect easy Al to tighten but I do expect the markets to tighten credit for lower quality debtors. I also expect a continuation of the decline in corporate profits that we have seen for the last year. The new era thinking bred over confidence and over indebtedness and the process develops into a self reinforcing trend - a bubble until it reaches a point where balance sheets are so strained that a retrenchment in unavoidable. At this point the process of debt liquidation feeds on itself. To see what the future holds look to the past - US 1920's, Japan 80's, SEA since 1997. Mike



To: Oblomov who wrote (51755)3/13/1999 12:22:00 PM
From: Alias Shrugged  Respond to of 132070
 
Andrew

>>>Why is everyone here so certain that a BK will be precipitated by
the re-emergence of inflation? <<<

Not "Everyone".
Not "Certain".
Not necessarily "Inflation".

All of the stars have aligned to produce this grossly overinflated stock market. If any of the stars (lack of inflation, strong dollar, increasing earnings, perception of dollar as safe haven, strong economy, manic consumer spending, periodic implosion of rummy currencies, continued weakness of Japan, low interest rates, ascendancy of momentum investing, etc.) fall out of alignment, some of us are fairly certain the market will fall over the edge.

Its ironic that the asian contagion and weakness in South America have sent a torrent of dollars here for "safe keeping". Weak currencies have also persuaded foreign producers to keep the proceeds (from selling products to US) here in dollars.

In the same way that momentum investors crank up a stock's price beyond a reasonable fundamentals-based level, our dollar has been puffed up beyond fundamentals (and interest rates and commodity prices have been artifically lowered). Investors (of the bullish optimistic variety) usually see a stock's mo-mo juiced stock price as some how justified (look at the oil service/drillers back in Oct 1997) and are shocked at the price plunge when all of the mo-mo money leaves. How much of the stock's price was justified by fundamentals and how much was due to the momentum investing crowd? Same question applies to the US dollar. Where will the buck be when all of the "safe-haven" capital leaves these shores?

Mike




To: Oblomov who wrote (51755)3/13/1999 1:08:00 PM
From: Skeeter Bug  Respond to of 132070
 
andy, deflation may precipitate it. also, the bk may take a looooooong time from beginning to end. it may not drop 1K, 2K, 3K or 4K in a day or week.



To: Oblomov who wrote (51755)3/13/1999 1:17:00 PM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Re DELL: "Baby, you ain't seen nothin' yet!"

I don't think the re-mergence of inflation is a necessary condition for the BK and I also think that a slow grind down from here is pretty unlikely ... when people turn sour on stocks all we need is a few % to turn really sour ... it is a pyramid of illusory wealth.



To: Oblomov who wrote (51755)3/13/1999 2:18:00 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
AA, I am certainly not certain that we get inflation instead of deflation. We are by nature an inflation importing debtor nation, so I think you have to give inflation the edge as the cause of BK, but we did pretty good on the deflationary side back in the 1930s. Either way, it is not good for most stocks.

MB