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To: Osothebear_517 who wrote (7721)3/13/1999 11:47:00 AM
From: The Ox  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8359
 
Oso and JSB,
What I find more interesting then the "fundamental argument for ABTX" is that drakes is supposedly here only to make money. Dead-cat-bounces, if that's what this is, is where a lot of "shorts" make big money going long, if only temporarily.

It's all about making money(the shorts montra) and drakes is obviously very emotionally attached to the "dark side" to the point where he won't even attempt to make money riding the bounce. From 3 3/4s to 5 3/4s, there was an opportunity to make a 50% return on your trade (taxes not included). Since few of us can call the exact bottom, maybe 40% or 30% is a better benchmark. I think drakes has been starring at the sun a little too long and has been blinded by his negativity.

We have seen the blinders on many of the bulls and now we are seeing it with the shorts!! Hmmm.....



To: Osothebear_517 who wrote (7721)3/13/1999 2:37:00 PM
From: drakes353  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8359
 
Oso:

Your resistance levels won't mean a damn thing one of these days when the words Trading Halted are posted with regard to ABTX.

There will be no takeover. Only the most deluded of the longs still believe there's a chance of that. If there is a takeover, at most it'll be at a 100% premium to the current market price. Since the chances of any takeover happening are virtually nil that's a chance I'm willing to take.

You managed to get through this current crisis by virtue of the confluence of a number of incidents which will not repeat themselves and without which, there would already be an equity partner at the minimum and a new owner in all probability.

Nonsense. Please tell me you're not one of those people that actually believes there were bona fide bids on the table and the bids were pulled because of the silly class action lawsuit. If you believe this to be true let me ask you, who bid on ABTX and what price were they willing to pay?

By your own posts, you admitted that you were fully covered at approximately the 16 level. You didn't do this as a display of your confidence in your own demented strategy, you did it as a result of your understandable fear that JT had actually called his shot and pulled off a deal.

I covered up at the $16 level because the stock was running. Was lucky enough to reshort it at $12 on "faithful Friday". Covered the following Monday. Since then I've scalped a couple of short side gains out of this thing. Have been patiently waiting for a decent dead cat bounce to set in so I could short it again.

Unfortunately, the date that JT chose as his target date was within the 6 month period for insiders to realize their profit on their own stock purchases. These parties were integral to ABTX's future and could not be lost to the company or its franchise value would in fact be irreparably damaged. The lack of integration at that time speaks to the fact that JT is a splendid negotiator of acquisitions and has significant foresight as to the needs of the company as is proven by the r/d alliances which he has struck and the world class personnel whom he brought on board. Unfortunately, once his baby had been delivered, he wasn't as willing to sign the adoption papers as he thought he was going to be during the pregnancy. He has been punished harshly for this failing and most unfortunately, so have the legions of shareholders who followed his dream.

You really believe this claptrap? Amazing.

That dream is now over, the company is in the strong hands of individuals who are businessmen and are devoted to the ultimate super-enhancement of stockholder value, including their own.
You will never see the careless slips of the tongue from Budd and Blum that you saw with JT & JF. Absent those guffaws, you and your squad will have far less information to distort through your dupe, Evans.


New management but still mouthing the company line. Cost you mucho dinero last time, me thinks it's about to happen again.

You have stated that there will never be a short squeeze in this stock. You are probably right from a technical standpoint since there are just too many shares of stock out there to get a stampede effect.
That alone does not say that it is going to be an easy proposition to sweep 7 million shares under the rug or that there won't be many who follow your mantra who won't get fried to a crisp.


Why do you think the shorts are going to be in a hurry to cover? The short covering so far has been orderly, it's helped keep this stock propped up as a matter of fact. If the price goes much higher you should expect the short interest to begin climbing again.

The DD/PHB dealings were significant to ABTX.

A one day blip, even a mult-day bounce, means little or nothing in the big scheme of things.

I found it most interesting yesterday to watch and compare the trading of ABTX and PHB
between 3:30 and the bell. AbTX was a virtual microcosm of the PHB trading. After a brief dip, they both ran strong right up until the close of trading. Both of them added significant volume during that stretch and both seemed to indicate momentum which will probably carry forward in to Monday.


So what's your point? Anyone with anything on the ball knows this sympathy move is doomed to fail. I'll be in there shorting any strength on Monday. If I was long I'd be pulling the plug and moving on to greener pastures. Don't understand why so many of the ABTX longs think they have to make back the money they lost on ABTX by continuing to own ABTX.

With its R/D tools (especially Hybrigene), ABTX is significant to other seed producers in other sectors. DD will have to turn to licensing agreements with ABTX to realize the benefit of this process if they don't partner with us or buy us out. They are basically starting their life sciences department from ground zero. They are ABTX 3 years ago with the single exception that they have fat wallet with which to work. They are not going to pass up this accumulation of distribution, R/D and market position in a burgeoning
sector w/o a struggle.


Yawn.

The dealings we watched yesterday were the first volley across the bow in the next battle of ABTX. There will be many other suitors back at the door once they realize that DD may well be still sending flowers and candy to Henderson.

I'm glad to see you're getting all lathered up about this bounce. It means there should be ample liquidity for shorting. Virtually all broken stocks bounce at some point (take a look at BOST or SOC if you get the chance) the trick is to understand it for what it is and attempt to take advantage of it.

You may in fact pull off one more short raid, but it won't be as deep or as damaging.

Raid? C'mon get a grip on yourself. FWIW, I strongly believe ABTX will be setting new lows sometime in the next month or two. There have been no fundamental developments here to change my view that ABTX would be "fairly" valued at around $2.

drakes353