To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (23687 ) 3/16/1999 1:35:00 AM From: jach Respond to of 77400
This is pretty bad for CSCO. CSCO losing in the LAN mkt segment also. With all these real competitions, look for CSCO to be down substantailly from these high valuation. Also, currently CSCO has PE of more than 100+, their historical PE is around 60. --------------------------- article from network world Foundry steals Cisco load-balancing customers Complete Foundry switch has an edge over dedicated Cisco box. By ROBIN SCHREIER HOHMAN Network World, 03/15/99 SUNNYVALE, CALIF. - Feisty Foundry Networks is winning over some Cisco server load-balancing customers, replacing the dedicated Cisco box with more general purpose Layer 3 and Layer 4 switches. Based on low prices, shrewd marketing and a versatile product line, Foundry has been convincing some IT managers to replace the aging Cisco Local Director with Foundry's ServerIron 10/100/1000 switch. "It's not that Local Director is an awful product," says Matt Davis, manager of corporate NT operations at Republic Industries. "It's a very basic low-end product without a lot of the functionality you can find on the Foundry products." Davis was using four redundant pairs of Local Directors for nearly a year to distribute traffic on the company's Web sites. That's no small task, because Republic Industries owns National CarRental, Alamo, CarTemps USA and AutoNation, which itself owns hundreds of new car dealerships across the U.S. Hello . . . Cisco? So you would think Cisco would pay attention when Davis put in a trouble ticket, but he says that didn't happen. He says Republic wasn't able to successfully balance more than two or three Web sites, mostly because Local Director forces the creation of virtual LANs for load balancing. "We never got a Cisco engineer out here to address the problem," Davis says, despite opening three trouble tickets with Cisco. "They'd tell us there's something wrong with our NT servers, with our routers." Davis says the problem was that Republic's Web servers are rigged for both the Internet and the internal network, a configuration the Local Directors couldn't handle. So when a friend recommended Foundry, Davis took a look. He wound up replacing the Local Directors with ServerIron switches and plans to put in about 15 of the Foundry boxes by year-end. "We tested with Foundry's switches in the same configuration, and it works like a charm," he says. The same thing happened at New Watch Co., a reseller of watches on the Internet. "A friend of mine who runs an ISP is a big proponent of Cisco," says Jeff Helms, vice president of engineering at New Watch. "He buys all Cisco, and for him to tell me that ServerIron was a better piece of equipment than the Cisco Local Director meant something." Helms ultimately replaced two Local Directors with two ServerIron switches to distribute traffic in front of a server farm comprising six Compaq dual-processor 400-MHz rack-mounted servers. The network is all Windows NT with 10/ 100M bit/sec connections. "The Local Director doesn't have as much throughput. It doesn't have near the capabilities for testing whether or not your servers have gone down, or whether they're currently functioning properly," Helms says. "Local Director's kind of gotten long in the tooth, technology-wise," says Dave Passmore, president of consulting firm NetReference. Not only that, the market is changing. "The thought that people need a separate product for that rather than combining [a load balancer] into the switch or the router is not particularly attractive," Passmore says. Meanwhile, Foundry's on the fast track to an initial public offering for this spring, and the company's counting on making more inroads into server load balancing. New Watch's Helms puts it this way: "We've got the Local Directors as paperweights right now, if anybody wants to buy them." ===================== customer said to use as "Paper Weights" !! will you not be curious as to what those thousands of engs are doing in csco when a customer said something like this.