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Strategies & Market Trends : Stock Watcher's Thread / Pix of the Week (POW) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Stock Watcher who wrote (4371)3/17/1999 9:59:00 AM
From: Snowman  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 52051
 
It looks like with existing orders they will be in the black this quarter. This will take them to a new trading range and keep them there. Enjoy! Thursday, many, many more people will be exposed to FTEL as FCM! AMEX is busy setting up media events.



To: Stock Watcher who wrote (4371)3/17/1999 10:01:00 AM
From: Francois Goelo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52051
 
S W, WCAP, earnings/capital appreciation and PE are very relevant...

This is an answer to someone who feels that the EPS and PE figures of WCAP are meaningless. Apparently he is shorting the stock: I guess, they'll become meaningful when he is long again!

EPS and PE are very relevant for the simple purpose of comparison with other Companies. On a punctual basis, (at a certain given point in time) there is no significant difference to the EPS, whether the holding is accounted for as capital appreciation or profit on sales of the holding. If the sale of the appreciated assets had occured, the actual EPS for the trailing 9 months would have been $4.58 and the PE just over 2, which is staggering for a Company that traded at the time I bought at $9 5/8.

The difference, of course, is that capital appreciation may rise or fall in line with the underlying asset, whereas the net profit on sale of asset is a fixed figure, it's the past.

So, if you have faith in the potential appreciation of these underlying assets, as I have, you prefer the future, which is appreciating unrealized gains, rather than fixed realized profits.

While I am not an accountant, I see that WCAP is allowed to treat its unrealized "capital gains/net asset appreciation" as actual EPS, so that must be an accepted and legal practice.
Regards, F. Goelo + + +





To: Stock Watcher who wrote (4371)3/17/1999 10:19:00 AM
From: Dave Gore  Respond to of 52051
 
UPDATED REPORT ON WINR COMING....just spoke to Kevin Holmes...lots happening....the lottery is just the beginning. stay tuned

One nice tidbit....apparently the the lottery site is worldwide, but apparently also is approved in 45 states that allow casinos!

Plus 2 new ventures to be announced within 2 weeks...these guys...I am impressed.