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To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (39025)3/17/1999 10:00:00 AM
From: Les H  Respond to of 67261
 
How Not To Catch A Spy
Clinton's way: first, take years to
snare a suspect and beef up security.
Then say you did everything right
BY BRUCE W. NELAN

The government
doesn't like to catch
spies. Nabbing one
tends to be
embarrassing, seen
as proof that the
people in charge
have been sloppy
and lax on security.
And it raises painful
questions: How
much damage has
the spy done? Why
wasn't he rooted out
earlier? Who's
making sure such pillaging of the country's vital
secrets doesn't happen again? It's an unwinnable
debate that no Administration wants to join.

But it is this kind of scandal that hit the White
House last week--and the fact that it involved
China made the mess even harder to clean up.
Bill Clinton has already been bruised by
accusations that illegal Chinese contributions
found their way into his 1996 campaign and that
he was overeager to allow U.S. firms to sell
high-end computers and satellite technology to
Beijing. Now the "soft on China" shouts are
louder than ever, boosted by claims from critics
in both parties that top Administration officials
delayed and soft-pedaled the investigation into
alleged Chinese spying at Los Alamos National
Laboratory in New Mexico, birthplace of the atom
bomb.

The FBI's prime suspect is Taiwanese-born
American scientist Wen Ho Lee, 59, who first
began working in Los Alamos in the 1970s. A
well-placed government source tells TIME that
Lee traveled to a 1988 seminar in Hong Kong
and, with Chinese officials present, allegedly
divulged sensitive information on the
miniaturization involved in the design of America's
most modern warhead, the W-88. In 1995 the
CIA obtained a secret Chinese-government
document that discussed details of the W-88.
The document was dated 1988--the year the
warhead went into production and a year in which
Lee also visited Beijing. When intelligence
analysts studied the data from nine Chinese
nuclear tests from 1990 to 1995, they were
chagrined to discover that the blasts involved a
miniaturized warhead that was a near replica of
the W-88. They also concluded, sources tell
TIME, that China had acquired details of no fewer
than five other U.S. warheads.

Still, according to a U.S. official, it was not until
mid-1996 that investigators singled Lee out as a
suspect, examined his travel and financial
records, asked discreet questions about him and
started monitoring his movements. Lee
apparently had a habit of not locking up classified
data. "He's pretty sloppy," says a U.S. official.
And he was reportedly defiant when investigators
confronted him about the propriety of his Hong
Kong seminar. But Lee was not fired, because
the FBI and the Department of Energy, which
runs Los Alamos, were still trying to build their
case.

In August 1998 Bill Richardson took over Energy
from Federico Pena. Soon after, Richardson
demanded that the FBI polygraph Lee. He
passed, but Richardson suspended his security
clearance and moved Lee out of sensitive areas.
The Secretary then approved a security
crackdown urged by Ed Curran, a former FBI
counterespionage specialist hired the previous
February to shape up Energy's
counterintelligence program. About a month and
a half ago, Richardson ordered Energy to
polygraph Lee again--and the scientist failed. On
Saturday, March 6, the New York Times broke
an extensive story on the scandal, and the FBI
swept in. They started questioning Lee gently on
Saturday then turned up the heat. By 10 p.m. on
Sunday, a U.S. official informs TIME, Lee
announced, "I'm not going to tell you anything,
and I'm ready to go to jail." On Monday, Lee
finally lost his job for allegedly breaking security
rules: failing to report contacts with people from
"sensitive" countries, failing to "safeguard"
classified material and giving deceptive answers.
So far, no criminal charges have been brought
against him for his suspected offense.

When the scandal broke, Clinton, Vice President
Al Gore and Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright all warned publicly that this episode
must not interfere with constructive relations with
China. They were so fast and voluble in defending
their China policy last week that they skidded
close to confirming the critics' accusation that
they are more interested in a "strategic
partnership" with Beijing than in facing up to their
espionage problem.

"I believe we acted swiftly," insists National
Security Adviser Sandy Berger. "I reject the
notion there was any dragging of feet." That also
sounded a bit odd, coming from an official who
was first briefed on the likelihood of espionage at
Los Alamos three years ago. Nor was this the
first case of Chinese snooping at U.S. weapons
labs. During the 1970s and again in the '80s,
Taiwanese-born American scientists delivered to
China the secrets of, first, the neutron bomb and
then laser technology.

The shocker is not that China spies but that the
U.S. took such a leisurely approach to
countering China's successes. In early 1996
Berger was told about the case and encouraged
the FBI to investigate, but he took no steps to
increase security at Los Alamos. ("I get similar
briefings once a month," shrugs a White House
official.) Only in July 1997, after another briefing
on laxity at the labs, did Berger tell Clinton.
Berger assigned an interagency group to draft
tougher security rules for the labs; Clinton signed
them in February 1998. The span of six months
from briefing to directive, says a Clinton aide, "is
actually pretty quick."

cgi.pathfinder.com


>>>The U.S. has been leaking like a sieve well before Clinton and
>>>since. If not spies, they have informal technology exchanges,
>>>Chinese graduate students, and web sites and tech journals from
>>>whom to obtain information.



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (39025)3/17/1999 10:04:00 AM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Moving the licensing of sales from the State Department to the Commerce Department was not an inherited policy.



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (39025)3/17/1999 10:07:00 AM
From: Zoltan!  Respond to of 67261
 
March 17, 1999

Commentary

Blame Clinton, Not China
For the Lapse at Los Alamos


By James R. Lilley, a former CIA station chief and ambassador to China.

"Foreknowledge cannot be gotten from ghosts and spirits, cannot be had by analogy, cannot be found by calculation. It must be obtained by people, people who know the conditions of the enemy."

--Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"


The Chinese, who wrote the book on spying 2,500 years ago, are now
denying any involvement in the theft of nuclear secrets from Los Alamos
National Laboratory by a Chinese-American scientist named Lee Wen Ho.
Given the overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence--so far available
only in the press--their denials ring false. The question that remains is where
we go from here.

We do not yet know whether Mr. Lee was recruited, controlled,
blackmailed or bribed by Chinese intelligence, or if he approached them
voluntarily. What we do know is that the Chinese Ministry of State Security
and Chinese military intelligence have a long record of preying on
Chinese-Americans to obtain U.S. high technology. Much of the information
is collected openly, through personal exchanges, scientific papers and
legitimate scientific symposia. But data on advanced nuclear weapons
technology, long-range missile reliability and accuracy, electronic warfare,
submarine nuclear propulsion and underwater missile shots must be
gathered by more clandestine means.

When the Communists took over China in 1949, Chinese scientists and
engineers trained in the West were lured homeward, where they were
instrumental in building the country's first atomic bomb in 1964. After
U.S.-Chinese diplomatic relations resumed in the 1970s, the Chinese
engaged in a massive effort to obtain U.S. technology. For instance:

In 1987, Chinese United Nations personnel employed
Chinese-American businessmen in New Jersey to obtain TOW2
antitank missiles, F-14 fighter plane blueprints, and air-to-air missile
information. These were to be smuggled out as refrigerator parts.
Four of the businessmen were arrested, and one of the diplomats
was forced to flee the U.S.

In 1992, Ben Wu, an agent of the Ministry of State Security
stationed in Norfolk, Va., tried to smuggle second-generation night
vision equipment to China. He is currently in a Pennsylvania jail.

In 1985, Larry Wu Tai-chin, an employee of the Central Intelligence
Agency, was arrested after working 41 years for Chinese
intelligence. Mr. Wu was caught by a brilliant CIA penetration
operation of the MSS.

If this is discouraging, the Clinton administration's handling of the latest
scandal is even more so. The president claimed that he "moved quickly and
decisively" when he learned of the security breach. Yet it took 11/2 years
for the Energy Department to act on the FBI's recommendation to reinstate
background checks for visitors to Los Alamos, and Mr. Lee retained his
security clearance for over a year after he became the prime suspect.
Administration officials also withheld information from Congress for fear that
the disclosure could adversely affect its policy toward China.

Indeed, the administration seems to view this case more in terms of its
political fallout than its significance to national security. Vice President Al
Gore, for instance, noted that the main security breach at Los Alamos took
place during the Reagan years, as if the former president were somehow to
blame for spying of which he was not aware. Mr. Clinton's supporters are
now trying desperately to gut the 700-page congressional report on illegal
technology transfers and Chinese espionage in much the same way they
bottled up the report on Chinese illegal campaign funding.

Espionage when exposed, however, should not derail our relationship with
China. This is not a case of constructive engagement vs. containment and
isolation, as the Clinton administration caricatures it. Constructive
engagement is not a Clinton invention--it was Richard Nixon and Henry
Kissinger who first conceived the policy and Presidents Ford, Carter,
Reagan and Bush who practiced it. Certainly, the case should not affect
Chinese entry into the World Trade Organization or Premier Zhu Rongji's
trip here next week. But it should affect how we give Chinese access to our
technology and how we manage a growing military relationship.

In this respect, my own experience is instructive. In 1973 I became the first
declared American intelligence officer in Communist China. Out of this
beginning came the installation of intelligence sites in Northeast China aimed
at monitoring Soviet weapons of mass destruction. Though the Chinese
threatened to close the sites down when our relations became strained, they
never did. The mutual benefits were too great.

The administration must now clean up its act, first by admitting its mistakes
rather than spinning the facts and covering up the evidence. Access to the
White House by shady characters, illegal campaign contributions, dilution of
controls over technology exports, lax security at key weapons institutions,
sloppy investigations of serious espionage cases, and Mr. Clinton's
penchant for coverup and deceit have all contributed to the present mess.
Whether this administration has the internal resources to clean up its act
remains an open question.

What is certain, however, is that the Chinese will continue to try to acquire
our technology, and espionage will be one of their means to do so. And we
will continue to spy on them. We cannot change this any more than we can
change China's human rights performance by hectoring them into doing so.
Our goal is to improve our own security system, not to try to alter the basic
nature of the Chinese.

wsj.com



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (39025)3/17/1999 10:26:00 AM
From: Ish  Respond to of 67261
 
<<And remember when all those nuclear secrets apparently leaked out. Not on Clinton's watch, Bonzo. >>

You are right, they were stolen before Clinton was president. However, Clinton sold China the technology to deliver those nukes to the US.

In the first case they were stolen, in the second the technology was sold, like guess who sold out his country.



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (39025)3/17/1999 10:35:00 AM
From: JBL  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
" Clinton continued the China policies he inherited."

Mostly wrong Daniel :

- Yes, engagement of China on trade was a Bush policy.
- No, taking the Pentagon out of the loop by switching control over technology from State to Commerce was not a Bush policy.
- No, accepting money from Chinese sources was not a Bush policy.
- No, putting the President in the situation to be blackmailed over Taiwan was not a Bush policy.
- No, tacitly admitting that Taiwan was China's prerogative only was not a Bush policy.

"The Chinese dumped a lot of money on Clinton."

That's a fact Daniel.

" Correlation is not causation, except in the minds of the rational right"

So, when Charlie Trie delivers a letter to Clinton from his Chinese handlers asking him to back off on Taiwan (and a check for his legal defense fund), that's just another coincidence ? Like the string of women who just happen to say that Clinton is sexual predator ?

And when you see China flexing its muscle in SE Asia, conspiring with Pakistan and Irak, and causing India to detonate their N- bomb, that's also just a coincidence ?

"At least when the money in question is on the wrong side of the aisle, when it's on the "right" side, all the money flowing through has nothing to do with policy considerations."

I don't remember any politician ever compromising National Security for campaign funds. If you can name one case, I'll tell you the guy should be thrown in jail.

"And remember when all those nuclear secrets apparently leaked out. Not on Clinton's watch, Bonzo. The leak is what compromised national security. Want to blame Clinton for Aldrich Ames , too? That one was revealed in the Clinton administration, but the US agents in Russia were rolled up somewhat earlier."

This is so lame. Spying has always been there. Pretending that it did not exist, and try to cover your sorry ass for accepting Chinese money and being corruptly influenced by a military junta is all we could expect of a President that won't even try to prove he is not a rapist.

I just can't understand how you can go on Daniel. Stop reading that Newsweek shit while sitting in Wisconsin. Buy a plane ticket, travel to China, and see for yourself . These guys do not play above the table. They never will until you slap them in the face whenever is needed. That's true in business, and that's true in dealing with their Government. Engaging them : yes ! Bending over, NO!