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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (4730)	3/17/1999 10:34:00 AM
From: flatsville	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9818

Ron--So your saying any opinion based on second hand information (industry surveys, research reports, etc...) is somehow malformed because it is not based on first hand information? You just wrote: "The problem is that the only folks who have first hand knowledge of these systems are being told to shut up and let the lawyers do the talking. And they are the only ones who truly know the vulnerabilties." Yet you feel confident in relying on statements/comment out of TAVA? Do you think TAVA is being entirely forthcoming?...I mean you just stated that folks with first hand knowledge of this are being told to shut-up. I think you just stated that first hand information is unreliable? I think you just may have contradicted yourself.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (4730)	3/18/1999 4:55:00 AM
From: Ken	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9818

Ron: There was a story circulating on one of the sites about last December, possibly Roleigh Martin's, quoting an inside source at one of the major refineries as saying that it was NOT feasible/possible to solve a refinery's chip problems, that it would be more feasible to build a new refinery from ground 0, taking 2.5-5 years. He stated that there would be a great likelihood that they may not be able to refine ANY oil as of Jan 1-NONE! A follow-up to that, who listed his credientals as a expert in refining thought that this assessment was overly pessimistic- the thought that at least (summmary) 40% was a more likely figure! Have you read Cheveron's report? Based on all the reports I've read, I would not discount the possiblity that refining, only based on their own chip malfunctions, may likely be down....and indefinitely! And, thus the dominoes fall! My extremely pessimistic predict on that basis alone would be far more dismal, if I factored in other aspects of the infrastructure simultaneously disrupted, much less banking, heavy transport, etc. I have been warning individuals, the last on the priority food chain of allocatable scarce gas at the pumps, to plan on worst, but most logical case senarios, such as rationing, and at heretofore unbelieveable prices, but more probably...no gas for their autos....indefinitely...unless in a vital profession, such as physicians, or programmers or engineers working on the grid..... Ken