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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: one_less who wrote (39088)3/17/1999 3:35:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Too terse, brees. There's a better version I haven't posted in a while:

A predictable and hollow moral relativist response. Character does matter. Letting Clinton get away with his lies, perjury, obstruction and abuse of his office will corrupt an entire generation. NO MAN is above the law. Especially not one who is so lacking in character as the current occupant of the WH. If that be "McCarthyite" then that is a label I will gladly wear. It is time to return character and integrity to our lives and to politics in this country. Clinton is hopefully the nadir. It is spineless relativists such as yourself, fearful that someone may criticize your own lifestyle who have given a pass to the likes of Clinton for too long. You sir are a willing accomplice to the decline and (soon to be)fall of our society. Those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. It is exactly the collapse of moral order such as we are witnessing today which led to the leftist dictatorships in Europe in the 1930's and ultimately to WWII. I fear for a country and a society which do not recognize how corrosive the likes of Clinton are to all of us in our daily lives. Have you no shame? How can you continue to defend such an utterly despicable character? The fact that you seem educated and well read makes the situation all the more critical IMO. It is a very depressing situation indeed. (http://www2.techstocks.com/~wsapi/investor/reply-5849957)

If you prefer a more articulate version of the decline of the west due to Clinton, there's this more recent one from fellow Clinton despiser (but not hater, of course) Neocon:

Schuh, I wanted to say something about the Decline of the West, before I forget. I agree with you that some conservatives denigrate American society too much, and I have said so in several public forums. But for those of us who believe that Western Civilization is the source of whatever is valid in the modern world, and that promoting Western Civilization amounts to helping other societies learn the necessary underpinnings of modernization, the continued denigration of the West which has become pervasive in academic and left- wing circles is threatening to the progress of the world, and therefore to the peace and prosperity of the United States, which has not only idealistic reasons to hope that other countries adopt democratic capitalism, but which, as a trading nation, is dependent upon stability and a broad prosperity. On the home front, it is simply true that the fabric of family life has been frayed in the liberationist era, to the detriment of children, and that ill- considered social policies have created an underclass totally unprepared for the world of work and responsibility, and frequently criminal. I live in the Washington metropolitan area, as you might have guessed, and recently there were five separate instances of young men shooting other young men over Eddie Bauer coats, two of them fatal. How many socio- paths can a society afford to create? Message 7560786

Moral decay diagnosis by anecdote is a good Reaganaut tactic, of course. I'm not sure if the Islamic world fits into Neocon's west or not. I do have a problem with the Reagan/Bush saga in Afghanistan, I wouldn't put the guys who ended up in control there in the realm of any Western Civilization I'd want anything to do with. There was a certain human cost in the promotion of "democratic capitalism" in Central America in the Reagan era, too.

Election's in 20 months, if you find a moral exemplar, let me know. I'm cool with GWB and his conventional Christian theology, though there's a few Texas-size business deals that might raise eyebrows there. McCain too. They just ought to be upfront on abortion.