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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (4422)3/17/1999 4:55:00 PM
From: SilverFox77  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81834
 
<<THC writes: "I just wonder why a private bank has been given control of our monetary system.">>
<<LORRAINE writes: Even though I do not necessarily embrace all of the views in this essay I consider it to be "required reading"............>>
<RON writes: As for Mr. Kutyn, I would believe it is up to you to correct his biased and revisionistic history. Afterall, you are the one who chose to quote him and bring his ideas to our attention. >>
<LORRAINE writes: If you think that every media article or essay posted on this particular thread has to be censored by the poster in order to be acceptable to YOU you've got another thing coming. You don't agree with something, fine. It's called freedom of speech in case you have forgotten.
I also mentioned, before posting the essay, that I didn't "necessarily agree with all of Mr. Kutyn's views", but my own personal opinions (and everybody has one) did not deter me from posting, now did it?
So go have a little chat with Mr. Kutyn and express yourself. I have no need to.
<RON nitpicks (again): Even though I do not necessarily embrace all of the views in this essay I consider it to be "required reading"............
Just what part of Kutyn's article didn't you embrace and what parts did you consider "required reading"??
Listen... if I post something out here and consider myself pompous enough to suggest it be required reading even though I don't embrace all of what it says, I'd better be prepared to back it up and point out what I do and don't agree with. That would only be fair.>>

First of all, Ron, you are starting to sound like a petulant child who is not being given his way. "That would only be fair".......

Would you really like to know why I consider it required reading? Do you really need to know? Did you find nothing at all in the essay (besides your hang-ups) that was somewhat thought-provoking, or that may have answered THC's original question which has now been blown out of proportion by your..., well I'll skip the rest of this sentence as I am not POMPOUS ENOUGH to give a darn.

FORWARD TO THE PAST

<<I just wonder why a private bank has been given control of our monetary system.">>

This private syndicate called itself the Bank of England and acquired for itself a monopoly over the supply and circulation of money. This syndicate continued to lend to the King, eventually persuading him to borrow 16 million pounds, thus allowing them to print a similar amount, which was lent to the public at interest.........
The creation of money out of nothing, either by printing or by new loans in the banking system has the same
inflationary effect on the economy; however, the printing of money does not ransom the taxpayers to the interest charged by the bankers. Today, it is this interest that is the major expense for most government budgets, robbing the people of government services and placing enormous tax burdens on the population..........

...What we are dealing with is power and wealth. Politics is not about truth and virtue, it is about power and greed. Politicians are either extensions of the power and greed of bankers or they are dead. The power and wealth of bankers is based on an illusion, and if the world ever knew the truth, their power and wealth would disappear in an instant. Power is thus maintained through the corruption of our intellectuals who exposé volumes of meaningless and contradictory economic theory's, or through various secret society's......>

<<....Since their inception, these private companies have been responsible for the theft of trillions of dollars from the U.S. people, whose government debt now approaches $6 trillion, and whose corporate and personal debt is several trillions more. The Fed. has the ability to both create money out of nothing, and to determine the interest charged on this money. Thus it can create both economic expansions as well as economic contractions, simply by altering both interest rates and money supply. In 1929, it caused one of the largest financial contractions in history. This allowed it in 1933 to confiscate the gold of the American people, while taking America off of the gold standard, thus removing any barrier to its ability to create unlimited amounts of debit money. .....>>
1914 also saw the start of the First World War, whose dubious beginnings were designed to bring communism to Russia. At the beginning of 1917, Trotsky was in New York, a guest of John D. Rockefeller Jr., who obtained for him an U.S. passport. When he set off for Russia on the SS Christiana, he brought with him arms, 277 revolutionaries, and $20 million, supplied by the Wall Street banking firm of Kuhn, Loeb &Co.
When Trotsky was passing Nova Scotia, he was arrested by the R.C.M.P.However, calls to Wall Street and Washington soon had Trotsky on his way on orders from President Wilson. During this time, Lenin was in Switzerland. The two Warburg brothers who financed Trotsky had a brother in Berlin, who with the help of the German High Command, put Lenin in a sealed train, gave him eight million pounds in gold, and got the train to Moscow, there to meet up with Trotsky. Thus Bolshevism triumphed in Russia, and all financed by the same people that controlled the Fed....

<<(THIS IS THE SECTION RON READ??...)
Chief amongst these societies is Freemasonry, though there are various others going by various names. Thus we see King William become the head of the London Branch of the Masonic Order in 1694. When Amschel Rothschild gave Adam Weishaupt the plans for forming the Illuminati in 1776, one main goal was the destruction of the Catholic Church. This is not surprising, as the goals and motivations of these secret societies are complete opposites to the teachings of Jesus. If you seek to control populations, their belief systems must be altered to conform to yours, and not to a contradictory belief. Eleven Pope's have condemned these secret societies, as explained by Pope Leo XIII in 1884; "Tear away the mask of Freemasonry and make plain to all what it is. It aims at the utter overthrow of the whole religious order of the world which Christian teaching has produced, and the substitution of a new state of things-based on the principles of pure naturalism. Including almost every nation in its grasp it unites itself with other sects of which it is the real inspiration and thehidden motive is power. It first attracts and then retains its associates by the bait of worldly advantage which it secures for them. It bends governments to its will, sometimes by promises, other times by threats. It has found its way into every class of society and forms an invisible and irresponsible power, an independent government as it were within the body corporate of the lawful state. It denies that our first parents sinned, and consequently that man's free will is in any way weakened or inclined to evil..............>>

Ron, I understand what its like to take a stand on certain things in life, but when you blind yourself to everything else you might as well sit down. You don't have to believe in every single letter of an essay to consider it required reading. Those who question the motives of a society that lives and breathes a doctrine/policy not created by them or even for them -- but for a hierarchy of abuse and CORRUPTION.....
You see, I do consider it required reading; maybe you don't. That's not the point, Ron.

I also hope that I helped THC by posting the essay. And, if not, I would think that THC will take it from here and find his/her own acceptable explanation of why ....."the private bank has been given control of our monetary system".
Now, can we end it?

Respectfully,
Lorraine


P.S. Normally, I don't spend my valuable time attempting to find an answer for someone I don't even know. I took the time for THC, and I also found the time for you, Ron.
And, I will find the time for someone else, if need be. Just a reminder............



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (4422)3/17/1999 9:08:00 PM
From: Mark Bartlett  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81834
 
Ron,

With all respect ... give this thread and the GPM a break ... I do not know what you do for a living .... but frankly I am getting sick of every second post with your name attached to it ..... it's a free N/A .... and you can tell me to go to hell <G> ..... but why must you feel compelled to respond to every post ... is this your occupation?

BTW - do me a favour and do not respond to this .... publicly or privately.

MB

PS .... and yes - I am being very rude ... but I (and I suspect many others) have had enough of Ron's World ... go start your own thread, and those that want to listen to you pontificate, can join you there. I suspect that for the most part, you'll be talking with yourself ... maybe Hutch, and a few others. And this has nothing to do with your view on gold - and everything to do with dominating the thread.