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To: Valueman who wrote (1582)3/18/1999 9:06:00 AM
From: tero kuittinen  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 34857
 
I'm talking about CDMA handset product recalls - not network problems. And there are several different estimates for Japanese CDMA subscriber base - the high number of people terminating their contracts makes it hard to estimate the situation. The CDMA camp estimate for their 1999 year-end subscriber number in Japan is 3 million. Let's get back to this discussion later and see how realistic that is.

Companies always say that they are "studying" a problem when they are asked about these kind of issues - saying that no problems exist looks high-handed and dismissive. I know what the return rates for different brands of handsets are in several outlets in Sweden, England, Germany, China and USA. Nokia is below the overall rates of Ericsson and Motorola. I don't think you want to know who's topping the charts in 1998 phone returns in USA.

I still find it hard to believe you are willing to acknowledge a tabloid as a legitimate news source. Have you any idea what the Swedish tabloids are saying about CDMA? Are you willing to believe Expressen's opinions about Qualcomm? I don't think you want to go there, either.

Primeco approached several handset manufacturers in their quest to find one that would deliver a tri-mode CDMA model. We know how that developed. I think we might as well wait a couple of months before we discuss the US CDMA handset market further. The real competition is starting this spring with Motorola, Nokia and the Asian companies finally introducing competitive entries. The significance of the cross-platform strategy that Motorola and Nokia are pursuing is tested in 1999 - Startac and 6100 series are global brands with a high consumer awareness in USA.

We'll see next autumn how well the far less well known models can compete against them. So far the Big Three brands have demolished the Asian competition from South Africa to China to Australia to Iceland. In AMPS, NMT, GSM-900, GSM-1800, GSM-1900, TDMA-800 and TDMA-1900 standards. The Asian companies made no progress in the US, European or the Chinese marketshare competition in 1998 according to Dataquest estimates. I wouldn't bet on Samsung or LG after the decade-long losing streak they have had in five continents.

Tero




To: Valueman who wrote (1582)3/18/1999 9:18:00 AM
From: Mika Kukkanen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
IN support of Tero: Outside of South Korea: CDMA scores low in Asia

Now, I have always thought that handsets are immaterial to a cellular offerings uptake (and I certainly would not say that Nokia's phones have driven the market). The article posted on RCR pages supports much of Tero's arguments. From two independent (of the market and from each other) analysts mention the lack of good CDMA phones as a limiting factor (among other things). The following no doubt has been posted in the past, but it is still relevant now.

rcrnews.com of South Korea: CDMA scores low in Asia

New from March-April issue: More coming 29 March

By Tammy Tan

SINGAPORE—Despite all the hype leading up to its launch, CDMA
(Code Division Multiple Access) in Asia remains pretty much stuck at the starting post.

Except for South Korea, which accounts for close to 70 percent of
worldwide CDMA subscribers, the technology has hit the wall in countries like China, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore and Thailand.

Across the region, CDMA has been plagued by economic, technological
and political problems, which have severely hampered the technology
group's bid to challenge GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) as the dominate wireless platform in the Asia-Pacific region. Reasons assigned for its dismal showing include lack of handset variety, limited roaming capability as well as increasing concerns about its
ability to upgrade into a third-generation system.

A major setback for CDMA proponents took place in Singapore earlier
this year when market leader SingTel Mobile decided not to go ahead with the system despite having called for a tender in November 1997.

SingTel Mobile's senior director of mobile technology Taiyo Soo Meng
told Global Wireless the decision to not award the contract to any of the six CDMA bidders included concerns over the compatibility of a
narrowband CDMA system with 3G systems, and its ability to upgrade
into one.

Also, the need for a new system was further reduced by the economic
downturn, which dampened mobile phone demand by almost half.

Pyramid Research estimates that as of year-end 1998, there were about 9 million CMDA subscribers in Asia, of which 95 percent were from South Korea and 4 percent from Hong Kong. The remaining 1 percent is spread throughout the other systems in the region.

CDMA growth forecasts for the next few years range from 20 percent to
an optimistic 50 percent.

Those optimistic about the technology say CDMA has a bright future
ahead simply because of its technological superiority.

Lucent Technologies Inc. Vice President-Wireless Networks Group Scott
Erickson said CDMA's ‘‘unique ability to make the most efficient usage
out of the limited resource of spectrum has proven to be especially
important in this region because the amount of spectrum allocated to an operator is usually very small.''

The technology, he added, also has triumphed because it has been able to provide near-wireline quality—something many users in rural Asia had never experienced before.

But skeptics will tell you otherwise.

Sakina Dhilawala, Singapore-based research analyst for Pyramid said that apart from South Korea, which adopted the CDMA standard based on
political rather than technological preference, the take-up of CDMA in
Asian countries has been ‘‘slower than expected.''

She believes the lack of roaming destinations, coupled with the lack of handset models, are major obstacles CDMA operators will have to
overcome before they can hope to even tackle its biggest rival, GSM.

‘‘Prices are still high, availability of models is low and CDMA handsets tend to be larger than GSM handsets,'' she said.

Indeed, this has been a major contributing factor to the slow take-up in Singapore. The nation's second mobile phone operator, M1, launched
CDMA last year but has only managed to sign on 8,000 subscribers—a
drop in the ocean compared with Singpore's approximately 900,000
GSM 900 and GSM 1800 customers.

‘‘Certainly the development in terminal handsets has been behind
expectations, but I think people will really appreciate CDMA's clarity
once the handset problem is solved,'' said M1 chief executive Neil
Montefiore.

He said he expects the gap between CDMA and GSM to narrow this
year as CDMA growth picks up, although he does not expect CDMA to
ever match GSM.

‘‘GSM will remain very much a premium choice because of its roaming
capabilities and wider selection of handsets,'' he said.

Elsewhere in the region, the same story is being replayed. Gartner Group's mobile communications analyst Raymond Ho said CDMA in Thailand,Indonesia and the Philippines ‘‘has not been too well received.''

Thailand's Tawan Mobile Telecom Co, which launched its CDMA network last year, was to have sold 60,000 handsets by April 2000 under its contract with the Communications Authority of Thailand (CAT). It only
sold 3,000 handsets within the first six months of launch.

One major problem was the fact that at 30,000 to 35,000 baht (US$810
to US$945) apiece, CDMA handsets have become a luxury in cash-poor
Thailand.

In Indonesia, barring total collapse, only Komselindo will launch CDMA
services, and the other AMPS (Advanced Mobile Phone Service)/NMT
(Nordic Mobile Telephone) operators—Metrosel, Telesera, and Mobisel—all have put on hold their upgrade plans.

Even in Japan, DDI Cellular had secured fewer than 100,000 CDMA
subscribers by year-end 1998, far below its initial projections. The
company, which launched CDMA as a premium wireless service citing its
superior voice quality, has suffered in terms of market position as a result.

Another problem is that CDMA is not yet a nationwide offering.
Technology partner IDO Corp. plans to launch CDMA in April in the key
market of Tokyo.

CDMA also has suffered major setbacks in China where technical
problems in 1998 and the push to remove the army—involved in China
Great Wall Network, which has been trialing CDMA—from business
activities have delayed commercial launch by more than nine months.

As long as China remains out of the picture, CDMA has little hope of ever breaking GSM's hold in the Asia-Pacific region, say analysts.