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To: nihil who wrote (32855)	3/19/1999 12:04:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 108807

Have you ever noticed the expression on the faces of dogs while mating? They seem to me to be totally involved in inverting large matrices or working out complex french rhyme schemes They are actually thinking about bond futures, in an effort to delay orgasm.

To: nihil who wrote (32855)	3/19/1999 11:16:00 AM
From: E	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

<<The real question is can minds have sex? I think it is only minds that can have sex and know about it.>> Of course minds can have sex, if you define sex in a particular way. Define it another way, you come out with a different answer. I have a personal story the relates to this question. I am wondering if it is in bad taste to tell it, but I will, anyway, because to me it is so strange, because I think of sex as taking place so predominantly in the mind. I've talked about my grown daughter on this thread before, but it was a while ago. This child was born with diffuse brain atrophy. She is, therefore, profoundly retarded, having an IQ of 4. (That means the numeral 4, not the age 4.) She also has cerebral palsy and epilepsy, and her frequent petit mal seizures (it used to be dozens in a day) also interfere with any 'learning' of which her damaged brain might have been capable. I should say that my daughter does not suffer at all, and is taken care of in a fine place by kind people. Anyway, the relation this has to do with the question of sex and the mind is this: While it seems so clear to me that human sexuality is so much in the mind... my daughter, from the time she reached puberty, has shown a striking, undeniable interest in males. What that means, in her case, is that when there is a male caretaker or social worker or visitor in a room, she looks at him raptly, and shows clear signs of agitation and excitement. She has a very short attention span, but a male presence captures her attention and will hold it. The care givers there smile at this, and take it as obvious-- they've seen the phenomenon often. But it is somehow amazing to me. She has no verbal language or comprehension at all. The words 'male' and 'female,' or should i say the concepts, have no 'meaning' for her. But... the part of us all that is purely animal survives in her, I guess, and 'knows' that there is something exciting about a man. I can't express how strange, and yet not strange, and how profoundly sad, this is to me.