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To: gregor who wrote (1353)	3/23/1999 10:54:00 AM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14396

><>...Dear Gregor, I see no cause for alarm...><> The last thing that anyone wants to do is drive those two young people away from God,and His servants. They both need to know and understand very clearly that tarot cards and the like are the tools of God's enemy. First, we need to know the frame of reference that Angel is operating from. This is all important!(This is done by just talking with her) It could very well be that she believes that she was gifted by God to read these cards...if she really can read them at all! Many tarot card readers put on a good show, and are able to fake the entire reading. If this is the case, then the situation is a lot less urgent! But it still needs to be addressed just the same. Secondly, when Angel's frame of reference is discovered then it is just a matter of exposing satan and his tricks. This can be done again by discussing the matter with her. If it is discovered that she really does believe that this ability, (Again, if she really has it) is a gift form God, then it is a cake walk! If she truly is saved she will be more than glad to know that reading tarot cards is Not a gift from God but rather, it is satan who is giving her knowledge, And this she can be shown by walking her through the Bible and showing her how God is so much against it!!...And I can't stress enough that most tarot card readers are not really getting any knowledge from satan OR any of his cohorts!!! They are just plain phonies, trying to make themselves look supernatural! And if they knew the power that the servants of God are gifted with through Jesus the Christ, they would abandon their little game of(parlor power) tarot card reading and the like, in a minute! Two bit parlor power no bodies, who are just trying to be somebody....And praise God they need to know that they are more than just somebody...whent they have Christ! My educated guess Gregor is, that Angel has no real powers to read any tarot cards with any special knowledge or insight! The tarot cards themselves have directions inside which give each card a meaning. Nothing to it gregor! A couple of practice hands and Voila..!!! They're bona fide gypsies!! LOL In my opinion gregor what needs to be done is that these two kids Shawn and Angel, have a couple of very informal meetings with one or two mature Christians who they both like and respect, (over dinner or something). The mature Christian should be able to in a very short time be able to discern the entire situation, and handle it accordingly, and with as little fan fare as possible. Without having much to go on I am still of the opinion that Angel thinks she is doing the work of God! She just needs to be shown that she is Not~! Gregor you wrote: Personally I call it a tails. I say Shawn is better off without her. Can we agree on this Remember the last thing we want to do is drive them both away from those who can get them out of this! Those who truly love them. They need the love and wisdom of God that only His servants can lead them to. If Angel is pressured to leave...Shawn may just leave with her,....as a matter of fact he most likely will. The best thing that can happen is that they both get educated in the word of God.! Angel is just trying to find her place in the heart of God!! And Shawn in her's! Gregor I know this industry (parlor power) like the back of my hand, and I know of what I speak. Angel needs to know the love and power of God,and her place in His kingdom, and the scales will drop off her eyes as soon as she realizes it! Get back to me with an update my friend I will be in prayer for them both, and mostly I will be in prayer for those God sends in their path, for if they are sent by God, Shawn and Angel will not be driven away. In the name of Jesus...peace be to you all † Shalom...><>