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To: Neocon who wrote (2257)	3/24/1999 3:13:00 PM
From: freeus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13060

I havent been reading all the posts so I may be off base. But I cant imagine that GOD cares about anything we do. We have taken the greatest country and just about destroyed morality and the attempt at individual rights and freedom. Why would he take an interest anymore. He must admit that he is not all powerful after all: he gave us "choice" and we choose to be dictated to (See Old Testament where Jews ask for a king and God says "you'd be better off governing yourselves" but they are afraid of self responsibility. After a while surely God got sick of our unwillingness to take care of ourselves?) Anyway just my two cents. I'm a LIbertarian but generally stay on the stocks that I own-threads. Freeus

To: Neocon who wrote (2257)	3/27/1999 9:23:00 PM
From: MeDroogies	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 13060

1) what's your point? When threatened, any animal recognizes the need to defend itself. Children, recognizing their inability to physically respond, respond in the most intelligent manner they know how (shades of Klinton) - shift the blame. 2)Thanks...I try. 3)Because they don't know how to be evil. It's pretty simple. By and large, a child performs morally neutral indiscrimate acts. However, when a child performs an action that requires thought and action in tandem, it has no knowledge of taking morally questionable steps. Look at children of abusive parents. At a young age, they continue to try and please their parents...until they realize they can't and they begin acting out on others. They would only do try to please a person who is actively hurting them if it is natural for them to be good. 4)My comments on Buddhism are derived from many years of active engagement and study. I was speaking from the history of the Buddha himself, as well as from its earliest writings. I never said your comments about Judaism or Christianity were inaccurate...unless you comb through to find some out of context verbiage. 6) No we didn't. As usual, you think that your context is the only one. We started out talking about making choices. My point was that God wants us to be able to make choices, for better or worse, but didn't want to actively interfere. As such, it is wrong for us to actively interfere in another's decision making. You took that to mean that He desired a specific outcome. I stated He didn't desire any particular outcome. He just wants a good choice to be made, and when it isn't, He becomes the judge/referee. In either situation, the judgement is made after the fact. Is there a desire on each one's part to never want to have to judge? Sure, but they recognize the futility and interference that would result in acting on their desires. That was, is, and still is my point.