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To: PiMac who wrote (33182)	3/23/1999 5:07:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>I don't even see the stoic's well-rounded ideal as perfection, but rather the acceptance of any non-destructive trait.< Then in place of Virtue what would you advance as an ideal? It's good to strive for something. You are bound to have an idea of what that something is. I invite you to describe it.

To: PiMac who wrote (33182)	3/23/1999 5:37:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

I wasn't speaking of the process of weeding out traits as necessarily desirable. I just think it happens in severely stressed populations with dominant traits. I am not at all sure that intelligence (g or IQ) is always adaptive for everyone. It is measured in words, symbols, numbers, paper and timed tasks. But if one has to live on game and leaves (as many ancestors did for thousands of years) any wolf or monkey is better adapted. But to get these damned brains, we had to abandon square years of nasal sensory tissue. Thank God for those of us who like to hunt the wolf and us adopted each other. But doubtless intelligence in its broadest sense is the master prize of evolution. I am in awe of man's capacity to contemplate the creation of the universe, to see billions of years into the past, to model futures that could happen and maybe one that we could bring about. I am infuriated at wolves hunting carabou or wildebeest standing by while lions chew up their kin. Give me five young healthy wildebeest and we kick the lions' asses. Same goes for the carabou. Mankind was designed for extinction, but we outsmarted the universe and started to figure what it was up to. Who knows where it will end. If we learn to love each other, and limit our numbers, and improve on what we are the stars are the limit, although we might stretch it to the galaxies and clusters given time.