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To: PiMac who wrote (33243)	3/24/1999 12:03:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>Seeking intelligent offspring is one outcome that interferes with the full process.< Might this also hold the other way around? One of the big problems I see with giving the process a central place in our ethic is that it is very hard to teach that to a child. Fixed ideals are easily stripped down to a format that is agile and simple enough to teach to a six-year-old. Process is perhaps by definition unsuited to reduction to a few memorable maxims. Perhaps a two-tier method is needed. A few simple rules for the young'uns - which like deciduous teeth are later replaced by a more difficult but capable mythos.

To: PiMac who wrote (33243)	3/24/1999 8:24:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Insignificant individuals -- There's a deeper question far more important, is Homo sapiences capable of changing himself, as a species, and should he. Are we so perfect that we shouldn't mess with what we are. There are death wishes for others deep within our brains -- aggression so powerful that we cannot resist them, and we do not even know what they are. We pretend. most of us, that we cannot kill, and yet, in the right situation, kill we do. As a joke in the Marines, I hypnotized a very suggestible kid (the one-armed pushup guy) and suggested that he was a Marine scout-assassin, targeted on one skeptical member of the bull session (suggested to be Goonies (Chinese Communist) who were suggested to be gathered around a camp fire in the dark. He left the squad bay, and returned, crawling on his belly (like a reptile) on the filthy squad bay-floor, he only had on briefs -- no shirt -- we could see he was unarmed -- inch by inch, freezing when someone turned to look at him "in the dark" then in a dash he attacked his victim, trying to garrot him with a wire coathanger bent into a loop that he had concealed in the front of his shorts, and it took all of us to save the victim while I stuttered trying to cancel the suggestion. Don't hypnotize mch anymore. I'd like to learn how to condition people not to kill -- especially when they believed they were morally justified. I'd like to learn how to condition people so they didn't have attacks of rage and fury. I like to know how to condition people how to treat one another with kindness and consideration, even to love one another.