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To: Stephen O who wrote (89)	3/24/1999 8:24:00 PM
From: Anthony Anic	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

Well said!! Like I said earlier. We're a little late bombing these lunatics, but late is better than never. We should have stopped them before they attacked Croatia, and then Bosnia,,etc.

To: Stephen O who wrote (89)	3/24/1999 10:19:00 PM
From: Snowman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

I knew that was coming..I know people involved in this conflict and have drawn conclusions from their feedback. Will not argue the point though as it is unwinnable. (sp?) Why don't we just go bomb Turkey and solve their Kurdish problem? While we're at it we should go ahead and take on the whole Arab and Jew conflict..a few bombings and the whole thing should be settled, right? I also hear of a few problems within the African continent, let's just go ahead and send all our troops over there as our national security is surely at risk.

To: Stephen O who wrote (89)	3/24/1999 10:47:00 PM
From: Dave Reed	Respond to of 17770

It's people like you in the 1910's who plunged the world into war over an assassination in the Balkans; which lead to the rise to power of Adolf Hitler and the consequent atrocities of which you spoke. By the way, I notice from your profile that you live in Canada. I was wondering if you felt that Russia should intervine on behalf of the Quebec separatists? Maybe bomb Ottawa a little?

To: Stephen O who wrote (89)	3/24/1999 11:19:00 PM
From: henry8th	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

Dave,I agree with the Snowman...How many Canadian aircraft and ground troops are going to be deployed in Yugoslavia to save Europe from the mighty Yugoslavians? I really don't think it right for the Snowman to give "billy the bomber" ideas for new and easy targets such as Quebec...I mean really...if things go bad in Yuoslavia...who knows

To: Stephen O who wrote (89)	3/25/1999 1:12:00 AM
From: capitalistbeatnik	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

OK, Hitler invades Poland. We go into Poland via the Baltic (if that's possible) between Germany and their then ally Soviet Union. Now what? "Early intervention" by the US would have stopped or contained either World War.

To: Stephen O who wrote (89)	3/26/1999 11:23:00 AM
From: gmccon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

<< It was people like you in the 1930's who stood aside and let Hitler conduct ethnic cleansing of Jews and gypsies and homosexuals >> Just like a homosexual from Vancouver to sneak his personal agenda into an otherwise valid discussion. Nice try, my friend, but boys liking boys has no ethnic pertinence.

To: Stephen O who wrote (89)	3/27/1999 8:40:00 PM
From: RockyBalboa	Respond to of 17770

I have to support a statement like that wholly. In comparing the Serb leaders to Hitler most people make the mistake to forget the preceeding actions before the "outer" international assaults take place. As early as 1921, 12 years before Hitler actually reached chancellorship in Germany, he revolted against the then reigning bavarian government in the "Kapp-Putsch", which ended in a humiliation of him. Being imprisoned, he wrote "Mein Kampf" which turned out to be the hymnus on his fight for power. When he was released his notorious SA began with the street fights against opposing communists and socialists. The courtroom fights "Saalschlachten" have been well known... The "seed" to his intra Germany promotion has, however been the economic depression Germany suffered. With the simple folks suffering impoverishment and even scarcity of basic goods, propaganda fell on fruitious ground - the saga of the "jews robbing the simple folks" emerged. After gaining ground on nationwide elections he finally forced the ancient liberal "Weimar" Republic to resign and received his promotion from the appeasing Reich chancellor Hindenburg. The leeway to extinguish critics has been layed out.. so he opened concentration camps and caught opponents from 1933 onwards. From 1935 onwards, the Nazis increased the pressure on Jews, by imposing the anti-jews laws which, wholly spoken, took all forms of Civil laws away from the Jews, including education, public employment, marriage to "aryan" Germans. However, it took five years until the Nazi Germany began to claim foreign earth....first "original" german earth, like Sudeten-Germany (from Czechia), then Austria, then the Alsace Region.... and then the imperialism led into WW II. The method of "attrition" has been the same abroad. First he increased the pressure on both Czechia and Austria by infiltration. In the year 1934 the charismatic Austrian leader and anti-Nazi, Dollfuss has been murdered by Nazis, and been replaced by the substantially weaker v. Schuschnigg. The looming ecomomic crisis also hit a country like Austria. Hitler ferreted out an advantage when he imposed the so called "1000-Mark Sperre", a measure which basically forced every German to deposit 1000 Mark as deposit when leaving for Austria. Knowing that Austria has been a favorite holiday domicile for Germans, this led to an aprupt decrease of income in holiday regions and levied additional pressure on the originally non-appeasing Austrian government. In Czechia, the Sudeten leader, Konrad Henlein has been backed secretly by Nazi Germany, when he began to complain about pressure levied from the Czech Government. Turned out that the Sudeten Germans begged "help" from friendly Germany which led to the separation of the Sudeten regions from Czechia -as the first step to catch whole Czechia. What should this show: First, the "Fuhrer" wants to dissolve the opposition in his own country by erasing the political opposition along with ethnic minorities. After this target is achieved and the power is being "legitimated" by a "general" vote, it is time to bother about the near vicinity where a minority of the own tribe lives and where (true or rewritten) "historic" links can be shown (like Sudeten-Germany, or Kosovo). Then the attrition is in full force against the neighboring countries..seeking their surrender. At which time, do you think it is necessary to step in to halt imperialistic claims by a local leader .... At which point of recent history Serbia resides.... C.