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To: Amy J who wrote (77279)3/25/1999 11:17:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 186894
 
Amy - Re: "Looks like Intel was in the doghouse today. Intel certainly isn't perceived as an Internet stock. "

What is really frustrating is that Intel's OWNERSHIP of these SAME NETWORKING STOCKS is enormous.

Intel has significant positions in CMGI, BRCM, Inktomi, CNET, iVillage among others.

Perhaps Intel should spin out a holding company to Intel shareholders - as a distribution of shares in the holding company - which would then be DIRECTLY tied to the Internet Euphoria !

Paul



To: Amy J who wrote (77279)3/25/1999 11:22:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
Intel Shareholders - A Small Mention of Intel's i810 Whitney Chip set.

The Cyrix stuff is a bit irrelevant right now, but the Whitney chip set is starting to get more and more mention in the media press.

Sources said another motivator for Cyrix to move toward the 370-pin socket is Intel's upcoming 810 chip set, code-named Whitney. The 810 integrates high-quality video capabilities and also supports software-based audio and modem technologies, sources briefed by Intel said.

One PC executive who has seen the 810 called it "a very high-performance" implementation aimed at the low-end. He said if future Cyrix processors support Intel's 370-pin design, PC makers can use the CPUs together with the 810 chip set as an appealing solution for the ultra-low-cost market.


The i810 may be another TRUMP CARD for Intel (did you get this, scumbria ?) in its battle with AMD.

133 MHz Chip set/memory bus speeds are also mentioned.

Paul
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crw.com

Cyrix Mulls 370-Pin Socket Chip

By Kristen Kenedy San Mateo, Calif. 11:59 AM EST Thurs., Mar. 25, 1999

As Intel Corp. sharpens its low-end offering, centering around the proprietary 370-pin socket, Cyrix also is evaluating that design for its forthcoming processors, industry sources said.

Intel conceived the 370-pin socket, which accepts processors directly to the motherboard rather than requiring a more costly Slot 1 module to help PC OEMs reduce system costs. Intel prices its Plastic Pin Grid Array 370-pin format about $10 less than the Single Edge Processor Package (Slot 1) in low quantities, and 370-pin motherboards also are less costly than their Slot 1 cousins.

Executives familiar with the plans of microprocessor makers said Cyrix, a division of National Semiconductor, could transition to the 370-pin socket at the end of the year because it offers a higher performance solution than the current Super Socket 7 design and distinguishes the company's processors from competitor Advanced Micro Devices Inc.

A National spokesman said no such architectural announcements have been released to the public. But he acknowledged that National entered into a "broad cross-licensing agreement" with Intel.

"We have the right to do it and we have the technological ability to do it," he said about supporting the 370-pin socket. "There are no legal factors stopping us."

He noted that whether Cyrix moves to the 370-pin socket will depend on the life span of the existing Super Socket 7 motherboard design, currently used for AMD's K6 line and the Cyrix MII and MediaGX CPUs.

A Cyrix spokeswoman also confirmed that the company will ship this month the fastest MII processor to date, a performance rated 366MHz CPU. The spokeswoman said Cyrix intends to ship a PR400MHz part this year and that the next-generation CPU, now called Gobi, is on schedule to ship in the third quarter.

At least one PC OEM said systems based on the MII CPU are still selling well, driven by cut-throat prices, in some cases as low as $30 each. PC Data, Reston, Va., said Cyrix's share of sub-$1000 sales at retail was about 10 percent last month.

Industry watchers have noted that Cyrix's ability to survive in the increasing competitive retail market now dominated by AMD and Intel, will be its pricing and feature set moving forward. Supporting the 370-pin socket could position the company for a higher performing offering as it begins to integrate L2 cache into the CPU, said Keith Diefendorff, editor in chief of the chip-industry newsletter, The Microprocessor Report. Diefendorff said the Super Socket 7 motherboard is not as well-suited for the new cache designs, among other limitations.

"I don't see the Super Socket 7 as a long term thing," he said. "Its life time is nearly at an end in terms of bandwidth and technology."

AMD already is making plans to transition to a new motherboard design and system bus for the K7 processor, scheduled to ship in the first half.

Sources said another motivator for Cyrix to move toward the 370-pin socket is Intel's upcoming 810 chip set, code-named Whitney. The 810 integrates high-quality video capabilities and also supports software-based audio and modem technologies, sources briefed by Intel said.

One PC executive who has seen the 810 called it "a very high-performance" implementation aimed at the low-end. He said if future Cyrix processors support Intel's 370-pin design, PC makers can use the CPUs together with the 810 chip set as an appealing solution for the ultra-low-cost market.


According to a road map obtained by CRW, Intel also has plans to increase the 810's system bus support to 133MHz by the end of the year. Existing chip sets for Celeron CPUs currently support 66MHz while chip sets for the AMD K6-2 processor support 100MHz.

One retailer said privately that Intel is indicating a bus-speed increase could come as soon as this summer if competition with AMD remains dicey.



To: Amy J who wrote (77279)3/26/1999 11:18:00 AM
From: Tony Viola  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Amy, RE: "Looks like Intel was in the doghouse today. Intel certainly isn't perceived as an
Internet stock."

You forgot EMC, +5 3/8. Hey, this morning on CNBC, they were going to try to make a case for Alcoa Aluminum as a company that would benefit from the internet somehow (never saw the actual speil). Back to EMC, they have announced some network attached storage products, so they are a "legit" internet play.

This stretching to be considered an "internet play" euphoria is kind of like the low fat or low cholesterol food thing. Like, 'these Goodyear tires are cholesterol and fat free!'

Tony