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To: nihil who wrote (33391)	3/29/1999 5:18:00 AM
From: PiMac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Nihil says<<I don't think we've tried to deprogram war at all (unless dropping ROTC at some of our elite universities counts). Most experts think its far too early to try. Here we are bombing strangers. Even the Japanese, a wonderful experiment in abandoning war as policy, just fired on North Korean ships.>> We can't deprogram war if we don't try. Our reason for going 'over there' at the beginning of this century was for the war to end all wars. Now at the end of the century, we drop bombs on strangers to stop a war from being a bigger war. [ROTC-"What if they gave a war and nobody came--What if we just sent you to Vietnam?] Wealthy Japan and impoverished N Korea, what happens when war is removed or embraced. Adressed below. <<Most experts think its far too early to try.>> These would be War experts? <<Today no half-way rational national leadership would attempt to conquer a neighbor for profit. >> Is Saddam mad, more specifically, was he mad to seek to rejoin his historical country, split by outsiders? UK & Wales & Scotland is an anomaly: wars divide [Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia] and economics join [EU] <<Primary concern with wealth will help us to deemphasize war as policy.>> !We agree?! <<It costs too much to be prepared, hence nonaggression pacts and federations will be built.>> Military alliances will remove war from the human repertoire? Sounds like near perpetuation. << I see Europe expanding for economic and peace keeping reasons until it includes Ukraine and Russia. And Europe's internal democracy is self-perpetuating. No dictator in Europe can rise again. NATO as Europe's military force is essential because it includes (and traditionally is commanded by) the US and obviates the chances of military conflict between US and EU. Maintaining and extending NATO is the most important single policy objective for those who seek eventual peace in the world. >> Yeah, me too. Europe and North Asia for Europeans and our military. More war to stop war. I still wonder about the 2/3-3/4 of the globe who isn't white skinned. They do enter into this no-human-species-war, creeping-economic-colussus plan you quote, right? Getting back to your quote, <<Primary concern with wealth will help us to deemphasize war as policy.>> We can kill every one of our species, probably in a variety of ways, but we can't teach, say, our neighbors Mexico and Central America to read, vote, and prosper? Does the attention of our wealth upon these lands of Not-wealth qualify as deemphasizng war as policy, or not?