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To: sweez who wrote (270)3/26/1999 2:23:00 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
They are indeed very disturbing.

What would I do? I don't know what I would do, but I know what I wouldn't do, and that is bomb a country and kill its people to show it that killing people is wrong.

I have two questions.

a. How much of this violence would have occurred if those who sought a free Kosovo had continued with peaceful process instead of turned to armed conflict? (Interesting report on NPR the other evening that the KLA was not a significant problem until Albania went under and its stockpiles of arms went up for grabs, small arms selling for as little as $15 dollars if you had to pay at all. Apparently the KLA grabbed up large caches of these weapons, and then found a use for them.)

b. Do you really think these atrocities will be stopped by the bombings? The way I read the news reports, there were very few incidents in the weeks before the bombing started, and Milosovic would have signed a peace accord which didn't place NATO troops in his country. (I understand, though may be wrong, that he would have accepted unarmed UN observers.) The US insisted on putting its armed troops on the ground inside Yugoslavia. Why? Given our recent history, I think Milosovic was right to be concerned that this could be a prelude to a military takeover of the country by foreign troops. I also read that since the bombing the atrocities have accelerated dramatically. The greatest numbers of deaths resulting from this bombing at present seem to be Kosovo Albanians. As long as Milosovic is being bombed, what reason does he have to hold back? Indeed, the safest place for his troops right now is in the middle of Kosovo villages and towns.

In this situation, two wrongs are not making a right; instead, they are making even worse wrongs. The bombing is not only immoral, it is counterproductive.



To: sweez who wrote (270)3/26/1999 6:40:00 PM
From: BigMoney  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 17770
 
as sickening as these pictures are, we must not let our emotions dictate our judgement or decisions.

pictures do not tell the whole story. they only provide glimpses and are primarily used to provoke an emotional response.

i looked carefully at those pictures and saw only this:

1) mass graves of dead/executed men who were mostly of conscript age, some with their weapons lying beside them.
2) women/children/elderly crying and fleeing.
3) innocent old men and children who are casualties of a war.

am i to conclude that these are war crimes? yes it is a crime when innocent people are killed in war. its sad. its wrong. but both sides have had their share of innocent victims. what i have yet to see is proof of "genocide" - the deliberate extermination of ALL life in kosovo.

sorry to sound so callous. i dont mean to be. im a very kind hearted person, who also happens to be very analytical, and doesnt take everything at face value. take another good look at those pictures if you can. tell me if you can find mass graves of WOMEN/CHILDREN/ELDERLY, and not just mass graves of soldiers.

if i missed something, please tell me. if there are pictures of mass graves of executed women/children/elderly, please show me. i DO want to see the complete "picture".