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To: William W. Dwyer, Jr. who wrote (2163)	3/27/1999 12:30:00 PM
From: Readyman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3216

I am presently beginner and i would like if possible somebody explain to me what they intend when they say that they refresh the bids on Island,I did not no what it mean?Thanks for help JEAN

To: William W. Dwyer, Jr. who wrote (2163)	3/27/1999 12:34:00 PM
From: jebj	Respond to of 3216

Now children! jb

To: William W. Dwyer, Jr. who wrote (2163)	3/27/1999 2:00:00 PM
From: Dan Clark	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3216

To William, and everybody on this thread and other threads, here's a suggestion: When posting messages, focus on the IDEAS, NOT the PEOPLE. Most people enjoy a tough discussion about their IDEAS. But, they don't enjoy being attacked personally! Example: - "You are OK, but your idea is DUMB! Here's why..." versus: - "You are DUMB! Here's why..." In the first, the receiver of the message is challenged to defend his/her IDEA. Others become involved and we have a lively discourse. Everybody wins because ideas are shared. In the second, the receiver of the message has to defend THEMSELF. The idea under discussion is completely lost. Nobody wins because everybody else tunes out both the sender AND the receiver. Also, when one person launches a PERSONAL attack on another, outside viewers are less likely to listen to the attacker in the future. It is the attacker, NOT the attacked, who loses. For example, there is someone on another thread (I've never seen him on this thread) that attacks everybody. Anybody who disagrees with his opinions is attacked violently. Result - When I see his name on ANY thread, I NEVER read the message. Never! He loses! Finally, we have the issue of shills - people who have hidden motives and agendas. I hate them. I wish they did not exist. But... It's been my experience that, over time, these people slip up and show their true nature. They become forceful when it is not reasonable. They push ideas that seem irrational. If I suspect someone of being a shill, I attack their IDEAS. If they can't defend their ideas to a challenge, I categorize them as either dumb, a newbie or a shill and stop reading their posts. Most perceptive people (like members of SI) do likewise. Result - attacker loses! If they attack me, I write them off as a bozo. Result - attacker loses! Let's focus on the ideas. Regards, Dan.

To: William W. Dwyer, Jr. who wrote (2163)	3/27/1999 6:00:00 PM
From: JDTrader	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3216

Old man: I thought I could teach an old dog new tricks, contrary to my better judgement. You once again made personal comments about me rather than the subject of this thread. I dont think you truly understand the difference between attacking one's opinion as opposed to the speaker himself. I think that is clearly shown by your comments to Dan's message. I could not help wondering which version of the note you were responding to. However, I will do everyone a favor and send a copy of your messages to SI and put an end to what I consider to be an outcry for help and recognition. I really dont have any desire to play your games. If you are bored and looking for a challenge, check out the nearest YMCA--they have discount and specials for senior citizens. My grand father says that Bingo nights are really challenging. Now is it really hard to understand that the subject of this thread is cybertrader?