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To: mark silvers who wrote (24964)	3/30/1999 9:52:00 AM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Mark as I posted I am still an emotional person which needs correction. My anger comes through frustration because I can't seem to communicate what is so plain to me. Christianity was definitely a product of Rome in the Roman Catholic church with spiritual teachings made historical fact by Romans who did not understand the hidden meanings in pagan teaching they altered into history. You can research back thousands of years before Jesus and their was the identical story, identical healing miracles, reference to the vine and the branches, the way, etc. There is a deeper meaning that is missed entirely in the new testament. The Romans even changed the old testament to coincide with the new fulfilling the old's prophecies. The second coming of Christ has already happened to many on this earth and does not happen in the biblical way. Study the parable of the seed for better understanding of life and death and existence in a permanent state. We always have been and always will be. The spirit dies when it leaves Heaven to enter matter and purify it. The spirit lives again in heaven when it leaves the matter of the body. There is no final death. All creation will be a perfect extension of God. Like a circle tere is no beginning and no end. Only an illusion. Time is only a unit of measurement for man to use.

To: mark silvers who wrote (24964)	3/30/1999 11:22:00 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Mark, I know that people will feeel that I am attacking Christianity or organized religion by saying this, but the truth is I am not. This thread has a tendency to have a "You are either with me or against me" type of philosophy. Things don't have to be that way. Does not matter if "people" "feel" you are attacking... what matters is your statement of what you consider Christianity's philosophy. You say the THREAD has a tendency to say " You are either with me or against me" that is not true. The THREAD as a whole says::: "thus sayeth the Lord"..........and the Lord says:: Matt. 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. Luke 11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. Rev. 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Matt. 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 2 Tim. 2:11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. So you see, things are that way, not by the THREADS word, but by God's word. Those who CHOOSE to deny will be left outside. You do not have to choose that way. John 10:(Jesus says) 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. dan