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To: Drake who wrote (19298)3/30/1999 3:06:00 PM
From: Teflon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74651
 
Sir Drake, I am the biggest MSFT Bull alive. Trust me when I tell you that. But to think that MSFT will eat AOL's lunch in the long term is wishful thinking.

There are many reasons why AOL will be around for some time to come. One of the most compelling, however, is that MSFT needs AOL to be around. Sort of the Chicken and the Egg dilemma type scenario.

Think about it...

The fact of the matter is that for now and well into the future AOL needs MSFT and MSFT needs AOL. It will be somewhat like the relationship that MSFT and INTC had for some time. Sure they will compete, but neither of them are at risk of the other guy putting them out of business. This just ain't gonna happen.

Teflon



To: Drake who wrote (19298)3/30/1999 3:53:00 PM
From: Punko  Respond to of 74651
 
Re: Msft ability to eat AOL's lunch...wouldn't that depend on Msft's keeping their cash cow -- i.e. no break up? A broken up internet baby bill minus the monopoly os biz and the mountains of cash is just another online company. Until the settlement with Uncle Sam and his nephews is finalized, it would be premature to write AOL and others off. I personally would not throw any new non-speculative money into msft because of this great uncertainty. The possibility that the OS business will be split off into a separate independent entity may be unlikely, but then again, Uconn beat Duke.

Some people say this wouldn't be a bad thing (i.e. the sum of the pieces would be greater than the whole). I can't see how. I'm in Microsoft for three reasons.

1. The well-protected monopoly os cash cow, with its ample, reliable, predictable spigot of cash quarter after quarter
2. The mountains of cash in the bank
3. The flexibility that 1 and 2 provide to take over new businesses, create new cash cows, put even more green stuff in the bank

This uniquely positions Microsoft to continue to grow at least 30%+ annually as far as I can see. I just don't think 3 is possible without 1 and 2. Sure they might grow, but I don't think that growth would be nearly as predictable or as fast as it otherwise would be with the advantages that 1 and 2 give them. And it's the predictability that scores with me (and i would suspect with many others who unlike me, control the big bucks). With 1 and 2, AOL is dead meat long term. That's a no-brainer. So is Oracle, CA, SAP, just about any other software company whose business Microsoft wants. And let's not stop there. How about on-line financial services, big and small ticket item sales, telecom and broadcasting, etc. etc. The sky's the limit. That's what makes Microsoft such a great investment. But without 1 and 2, it's just another Amazon, On-sale, Yahoo, or AOL. These are a dime a dozen.

Right or wrong, Uncle Sam is taking issue with 3, blaming and threatening 1, and looking to do who knows what with 2.



To: Drake who wrote (19298)3/30/1999 6:36:00 PM
From: t2  Respond to of 74651
 
Drake,I think you're right, short-term. However, long-term MSFT will, imo, eat AOLs lunch. I'll explain after I get an entry point for MSFT.

I think it is a possibility----only if Microsoft stays in the the ISP biz and gets aggressive. The other possibility is that there may not be much left to eat, once we get "cut throat" competition for the ISP and portal advertising. If MSFT sees AOL getting too big, they will try to cut them down to size. MSFT might try to starve any potential threats----does Netscape ring a bell? They will be just carefull not to use Windows to do it.
However, mergers might take care of big competition problems and ISPs like AOL may just keep going.