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To: Chip McVickar who wrote (39213)3/31/1999 1:11:00 PM
From: Jon Stept  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 94695
 
Chip, re:"...4½ year climb to 10,000..."

Hi Chip,

Thanx for the post.

Tuesday's (3/30/99) Wall Street Journal
had a special on the 10,000
and a list of all the dates when it closed
above the next 100 (... 1,100 then 1,200,
then 1,3000, etc...).

The 10,0000 is such an unrelative figure.
The Dow-to-time graph that is typically used
is dramatic, but very misleading.
I was curious how it advanced on a percentage basis.
So, I used an Excel spreadsheet and calculated since
1896 (beginning of Dow) 10% increases and approximated
data from Wall Street Journal. I could only use
the data after about 1965 because up till that point
the 10% increments were so small the data which
covered 100 point movements was too big.

But still, from 1964 thru 3/5/99 I calculated
the days between each successive 10% move then did
a %move/day. Then I also worked backwards
to see how long it took the market to double.

Lots can be gleaned from the calculations.
The interesting ones to me are the 10% increase
that took so much time from 3/19/98 to 3/5/99.
Also, the tremendous double from 1983 to 1987 that lasted,
conservatively, only about 4 years.

The dates to Dow are approximate using the figures
from the Wall Street Journal. To get really
accurate, I would need each day's closing...
something I will probably do in the future.

Here is what I got working backwards:

It took 3 years and 4 months to get to 10,000.
It took 8 years and 4 months to get to 5,000.
It took 4 years and 4 months to get to 2,500.

Also, here is the 10% move increments:

# days
to get %move/day
Dow Date there. (.10/#days*1000)
==== ======= ====== =========
814 2/28/64
895 1/28/65 330 30
985 11/14/72 2806 4
1083 2/24/83 3700 3
1192 4/26/83 62 161
1311 5/20/85 744 13
1442 11/6/85 166 60
1586 2/6/86 90 111
1745 2/27/86 21 476
1919 7/1/86 124 81
2111 1/19/87 198 51
2323 3/20/87 61 164
2555 7/17/87 117 85
2810 1/2/90 885 11
3091 4/17/91 465 22
3400 6/1/92 404 25
3740 11/16/93 525 19
4114 3/24/95 488 20
4526 6/16/95 82 122
4979 11/21/95 155 65
5476 2/8/96 77 130
6024 10/14/96 246 41
6626 1/7/97 83 120
7289 5/15/97 128 78
8018 7/16/97 61 164
8820 3/19/98 243 41
9702 3/5/99 346 29

Just my opinion and calculations.

Jon :)




To: Chip McVickar who wrote (39213)3/31/1999 8:48:00 PM
From: William H Huebl  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 94695
 
Chip (and Jon):

Yeah, those were the days... owned a Bristol 26 for years with 2 other families... rotated sailing every 3 weeks...

Jon's figures look like a random number table except in early-mid 90's.

Bill