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To: Neocon who wrote (41166)4/1/1999 9:11:00 AM
From: DMaA  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 67261
 
Full gloat mode. Not only wasn't it a black mark, "I am
honored that something that was indefensible was pursued and that
I had the opportunity to defend the Constitution."

***Media Research Center CyberAlert***
            Thursday April 1, 1999 (Vol. Four; No. 58)


    >>> April 1 NQ Delayed. An unexpected bounty of biased bombast
from Dan Rather led me, in the interest of getting the real bias
out to everyone while avoiding confusion, to delay the CyberAlert
distribution of the April Fools edition of Notable Quotables. The
April 1 issue of NQ will be distributed in a separate CyberAlert
later today and it will also be posted on the MRC home page by
late Thursday morning. Go to: mrc.org <<<

    > 1) Dan Rather plays nice with Bill Clinton. Forget Chinese
espionage or Juanita Broaddrick or Monica Lewinsky's assertion
that Clinton satisfied her, which undercuts his basis for his
claim about not having sexual relations. No, instead in an
exclusive interview CBS News landed, after some questions about
the war in Kosovo, Dan Rather tossed kiss-up questions, such as
light-heartedly promoting the Hillary for Senate distraction:
"Could you describe for me what you believe to be the
responsibilities of the husband of a United States Senator?"

    And even some of his Kosovo questions were hardly tough, as he
wondered about Clinton's "feelings" about the situation: "I'm told
by those close to you that you have a lot of pent up feelings
about what's happening in the Balkans, what we're doing there. Can
you share some of that with us?"

    Wednesday night, March 31, the CBS Evening News aired three
sets of highlights from the interview totaling about six minutes.
Later, 60 Minutes II allocated two segments, more than half the
program, to a lengthier showing of the interview Rather conducted
at the White House Wednesday afternoon.

    There's a lot worth taking in here from an unrepentant Clinton
who used his CBS air time to portray himself as a victim defending
the Constitution against partisan conservatives. During the
interview:
    -- Clinton declared: "I am very careful in the words I use not
to mislead one way or the other."
    -- Asked about stopping the bombing in respect to Easter,
Clinton cited Milosevic's killing spree, asserting: "We can't
observe Easter and honor the resurrection of Christ by allowing
him another free day to kill more innocent civilians."
    -- He insisted he did not consider resigning because "I
wouldn't do that to the Constitution....I would never have
legitimized what I believe is horribly wrong with what has
occurred here over the last four or five years."
    -- Clinton contended: "I do not regard this impeachment vote
as some great badge of shame."
    -- When Clinton insisted "I have no lingering animosity, I
don't wake up every day mad at those people," Rather suggested he
has good reasons for ill will: "You've got to be bitter about some
of it."

    Now, to the details. Rather began the interview as shown on 60
Minutes II at 9pm ET/PT with some questions about Kosovo, starting
with the genocide there, whether Clinton has authorized bombing
Belgrade, to "go downtown," as Rather put it. After asking if any
targets have been ruled out, Rather got to one of his few
challenging questions, sort of, suggesting Milosevic could now
agree to talk since he's achieved his goal of cleansing Kosovo of
Muslims, "So doesn't that leave us defeated, or does it?" Clinton
replied that he would not accept the status quo as all the Kosovar
people must be allowed to return to their homes. Next, Rather
asked Clinton to react to the suggestion that members of the
military say we're not employing our full force, that the U.S. is
not going all out.

    Now we get to the interesting part. In asking about sending
ground troops Rather insisted Clinton respond to the complaint
that he "parses" his words, but Rather couldn't refrain from
setting up the question by gratuitously saying "everybody
acknowledges you have a brilliant mind."

    Here's the exchange, with Clinton's remarkable retort that "I
am very careful in the words I use" and that complaining about
parsing is a trick by political enemies to divert him from helping
the American people, an argument Rather bought:

    Rather: "With all respect, but also directly, everybody
acknowledges you have a brilliant mind, you're an excellent
speaker. But sometimes people, and people who support and like you
say well he parses words too closely. What is is argument, all of
that. I want to discuss ground troops in the context of speaking
as directly as you possibly can. When you say you have no
intention to commit ground troops to accomplish the mission in
Kosovo, does that mean we are not going to have ground troops in
there no way, no how, no time?"
    Clinton: "It means just what it says. You know, I'll come back
to the point, but you say people say I parse words too closely.
That's what they said about President Roosevelt too and he made a
pretty good President. And when people say you parse words too
closely it usually means they want to ask you a question and get
you to give an answer which is inconsistent with the objective
you're trying to pursue for the American people and so you don't
do what they want you to do. So normally they criticize not for
what you're doing but for what they wish you would do."
    Rather: "Fair enough."
    Clinton: "Now, I have used those words carefully. I am very
careful in the words I use. Now on the merits of it, the thing
that bothers me about introducing ground troops into a hostile
situation...." He went on to say he's concerned about the
"prospect of never being able to get them out."

    (The miracle of editing. Here's the Clinton answer CBS showed
on the Evening News in response to the same question. After the
first sentence CBS plugged in an answer from somewhere else that
did not appear on 60 Minutes: "It means just what it says. I have
used those words carefully. I am very careful in the words I use
not to mislead one way or the other. And the reason is I think I
have embraced a strategy here that I believe has a reasonably good
chance, a reasonably good chance of succeeding....")

    Back to 60 Minutes, Rather moved on to the Pope's request that
Clinton suspend the bombing for Easter. Citing Milosevic's killing
spree, Clinton countered: "We can't observe Easter and honor the
resurrection of Christ by allowing him another free day to kill
more innocent civilians."

    Rather followed up that this is the most important week in the
Judeo-Christian calendar, so some say it's "obscene" to carry on
the bombing. Clinton maintained he's "acting in defense of the
defenseless."

    Enough with tough policy, Rather moved on to Clinton's
"feelings," as if they should have any impact on policy decisions:
    "Mr. President, as you always try to do, you're talking in
measured tones. As President of the United States you have to be
careful of what you say. But I'm told by those close to you that
you have a lot of pent up feelings about what's happening in the
Balkans, what we're going there. Can you share some of that with
us?"
    Clinton let out a big sigh, took a breath, and proceeded to
pontificate about how the world is "bedeviled" by people unable to
get along with people who are different. Clinton insisted that's
the "dominant problem" in the world today.

    How profound. As if people not getting along and going to war
is a new phenomenon. 

    Following an ad break, Rather progressed to a more pleasant
topic for Clinton: "Could you describe for me what you believe to
be the responsibilities of the husband of a United States
Senator?" Clinton, laughing, explained that he'd be willing to be
a caseworker in Hillary's New York office.
    Clinton ruminated about how after Hillary aided his career for
22 years he will spend the next 22 years helping her, prompting
Rather to seek reassurance: "And you expect to do that together as
man and wife?"
    Clinton: "Oh, absolutely."

    Up next, instead of demanding Clinton address what he put the
country through, Rather sympathetically inquired about how "our
First Family" is doing: "Mr. President, you know Americans like to
know that the First Family is okay, that they're doing alright.
Given the year plus what you and our First Family have been
through, tell us what you can about how the three of you are
doing." Clinton assured Rather they are "doing reasonably well"
since "we do love each other very much," adding that Hillary's
trip to Africa has been good for the country.

    Rather's next question: "How about yourself? We're here in a
room with pictures of Lincoln, Washington, Continental Congress.
When you look back over this year plus, what's the moral of it?
Does it have a moral?"
    Clinton outlined his four lessons: First, every person must
bear the consequences of heir conduct; Second, "the Constitution
works" as it prevented partisan passions from getting out of hand;
Third, the American people "almost always get it right"; and
Fourth, people expect officials to work for them and those who do
will be rewarded.

    Rather pressed the President about whether he ever considered
resigning, leading to this retort in which Clinton portrayed
himself simultaneously as a victim and a heroic defender of the
Constitution: "I wouldn't do that to the Constitution. I wouldn't
do that to the presidency, I wouldn't do that to the history of
this country. I would never have legitimized what I believe is
horribly wrong with what has occurred here over the last four or
five years."

    Moving along, Rather posed this seemingly uncomfortable
question, but did not follow it up when Clinton deflected it by
using it to denounce his opponents: "Mr. President, I get a lot of
letters, not as many as you do, but I get a lot of letters from
parents who say, some of them say ‘Listen, I like President
Clinton, I like what he's doing for the country.' Some even said
‘I'd vote for him again but I don't know what to tell the children
on the worst aspects of what happened last year.' Let's try to
give these parents some help. What can they tell their children?"
    Clinton claimed that letters he receives from 11, 12 and 13-
year-olds show "some of them, on this very point, offended that
they're being used in that way."

    Finally, but not quite, Rather reluctantly queried:
    "Last question, if you'll indulge me. You agree that whatever
you do, however this situation in Kosovo turns out, whatever else
you do in the first paragraph of your obituary is going to be a
reference to what you consider among the worst things that's ever
happened to you. Only President in the 20th century to be
impeached, one of only two Presidents to be impeached. Give me
some sense of how you feel about that within yourself."
    Clinton answered with a diatribe showing he has no remorse and
really believes he is a victim: "Well, first of all I'm not at all
sure that's right that it will be in the first paragraph of the
obituary. And secondly, if it is, if the history writers are
honest they'll tell it for just exactly what it was. And I am
honored that something that was indefensible was pursued and that
I had the opportunity to defend the Constitution. That doesn't
have anything to do with he fact that I did something that I
shouldn't have done which I'm ashamed of and which I've apologized
for but it had nothing to do with the impeachment process. And I
think that's what the American people, two-thirds of them, knew
all along. And I determined that I would defend the Constitution
and the work of my administration and those who did not agree with
what I had done and were furious that it had worked and the
country was doing well and attempted to use what should have been
a constitutional and legal process for political ends did not
prevail. And that's the way I saw it. I have no lingering
animosity, I don't wake up every day mad at those people."
    Rather helpfully chirped in: "You've got to be bitter about
some of it."
    Clinton: "I'm not..."
    Clinton proceeded to say that he realized that if he wanted
forgiveness had to extend forgiveness, that to be a good President
he had to rid himself of bitterness. He maintained: "I do not
regard this impeachment vote as some great badge of shame, I do
not because I do not, because I do not believe it was warranted
and don't think it was right."

    He recalled how most now believe President Johnson was
unjustly impeached and the proceeding now reflects well on him.
The piece ended with this scolding from Clinton:
    "I just think that it's past us and we need to put it behind
us and we need to go on. We owe that to the American people to let
it go and all of us owe it to our families and our personal lives.
All the great players here, they need to let it go and go on with
the business of the country."

    CBS and Dan Rather are certainly willing. They not only have
moved on past Lewinsky, they won't move to the next scandal:
Chinese espionage.

    +++ Watch Rather and Clinton. Thursday morning the MRC's Sean
Henry and Kristina Sewell will post about a three-minute clip, in
RealPlayer format, of Rather's most felicitous questions to
Clinton. Go to the MRC home page or to the MRC's video page:
mediaresearch.org

    > 2) How Rather treated Clinton is a significant departure
from how major media outlets reacted to humanitarian-prompted
military action by Presidents Reagan and Bush, a new fax report
researched by the MRC's Tim Graham demonstrates. Prominent figures
in the media characterized those Presidents as bullies launching
misguided and dangerous military operations that could boomerang
on the U.S.

    "Suddenly Hawkish on Humanitarian Wars: Clinton Team Spared
Quick-Trigger Negativity of News Coverage of Grenada, Libya,
Panama, Gulf War," reads the title of the April 1 Media Reality
Check fax report. You can read it below or go to the MRC home page
where a more graphically-appealing version will be posted Thursday
morning. To read this edition and previous fax reports, go to:
mediaresearch.org

    Here's the text of the April 1 edition:
  
The NATO air strikes against Yugoslavian targets may be the
subject of some confusion, but already the Clinton administration
has been spared the quick-trigger media negativity that's been
common in the first days of several Republican military actions:

When the Reagan administration authorized the liberation of
Grenada, The Washington Post wouldn't call it liberation. It
reported on October 27, 1983: "The United States, its military
conquest of Grenada complete..." Two days later: "The officials
said the Marines would probably depart within a week, leaving an
occupation force of about 5,000 Army soldiers."

-- NBC commentator John Chancellor on Nicaragua, January 15, 1987:
"The Duke of Wellington, one of England's greatest soldiers, once
said ‘There is no such thing as a little war for a great
nation'....The Johnson administration became obsessed with
Vietnam, the Kremlin became obsessed with Afghanistan and the
Reagan administration became obsessed with Nicaragua. That led to
bad troubles for the Reagan administration. Big countries have to
pick their fights very carefully. Victory has to be certain in a
fight with a small enemy. If not, things can get out of hand."

-- CBS reporter Wyatt Andrews covering the Panama invasion,
December 21, 1989: "Having launched one of the largest invasion
forces since the days of the Vietnam War, Mr. Bush is erasing his
old image of being timid, but the new question now, almost
overnight, is whether this President is exhibiting signs of being
reckless."

-- Los Angeles Times reporter Barry Bearak in a December 18, 1989
news analysis on Reagan's 1986 air raids on Libya: "Democrats by
and large remained uncritical of this occasional gunplay. After
all, Sheriff Reagan mostly fired in the air, harmlessly busting up
the bullies on a weekend drunk. And besides, in the heat of a
national pep rally, any downbeat voice was easily scored as whiny
and defeatist."

-- CBS reporter Bob Simon on the Gulf War, August 7, 1990: "While
Americans say they're moving tonight in support of little nations,
that's not how it will be perceived or described over here. From
the poor people in these little nations, Americans will hear these
old phrases, old accusations: gunboat diplomacy, imperialism, the
arrogance of power." 

-- Bryant Gumbel on the August 7, 1990 Today: "The Persian Gulf
crisis is already resulting in higher gas prices at the pump,
exposing the [Bush] administration's lack of an energy policy.
We'll talk of just how much that figures to cost him." 

-- Lisa Myers on the August 15, 1990 NBC Nightly News: "The
problem is that slow but steady progress on energy conservation
came to a screeching halt in the mid-1980s, which is a big reason
Iraq has us over a barrel today...What derailed the conservation
effort? Two things: a sharp drop in oil prices, and the Reagan
administration." Myers eight days later: "Almost daily, the
President is out on a gas-guzzling cigarette boat which gets one
and a half miles to the gallon. Saving energy is not something he
likes to talk about.... Energy analysts call the lack of action
irresponsible."

-- Gumbel to a Saudi Arabian editor on August 20: "I need not
elaborate on the differences between your culture and ours, but
how much of a threat to the Saudi way of life do you think the
presence of American forces represents?"

-- Dan Rather to Saddam Hussein on August 29, 1990: "Mr.
President, do you think this is a Vietnam in the sand for the
United States?" 



To: Neocon who wrote (41166)4/1/1999 9:20:00 AM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
washingtonpost.com

Interesting article on costs of independent counsel. All the people who complained about the costs should complain about Walsh who is still 8 million dollars ahead of Starr.



To: Neocon who wrote (41166)4/1/1999 9:53:00 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
He's sick. BTW, where oh where has our Danny boy gone? JLA



To: Neocon who wrote (41166)4/1/1999 10:21:00 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Do you think the reaction from America would be any different if one or more of the captured American soldiers were female? Just curious. It is inevitable, given the new make-up of our military, that this will occur someday.