Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Pastimes : Kosovo -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (991)	4/1/1999 9:37:00 AM
From: Snowman	Respond to of 17770

An interesting theory: 38.201.154.103

To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (991)	4/1/1999 11:24:00 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

My HS history teacher taught me that it was the British who burned Washington. Do I now have to blame it on my neighbor Canadians? Heck, I even helped a few of them out last week. If I had only know, I could have been hating them all this time!

To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (991)	4/2/1999 1:17:00 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 17770

I think that was 1814. Admiral Cochrane and General Robert Ross (killed in the battles) led British soldiers and marines, perhaps not many of them Canadians, in revenge perhaps for U.S. burning of York in Ontario (now maybe its called Toronto). I only traced incursions back to 1914 (Pancho Villa's incursion into New Mexico) because that was the latest date in the post I was replying to. In the War of 1812 there were a number of incursions -- most notably General Pakenham who got killed in the battle of New Orleans (1815) downstream from the city. When Wellington (under whom Pakenham had served) was told about the battle he replied "Column against line, eh? Sounds like Pakenham."* Before this, only British refusal 1783-1812) to abandon forts in the Old Northwest (Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan) and support of Indian "aggression" against American border people could be considered incursions or invasions. Several battles were fought -- Fallen Timbers (1794), Tippecanoe(1812), (both American victories) and an occasional utter disaster which no one cares to remember -- the Indians being all dead and the descendents of the Americans involved too embarrassed. There was another invasion in 1846, when Mexicans were said to have invaded a U.S. state (land between the Rio Grande and Nuevos rivers claimed by Texas precipitating the Mexico-United States war. In this war the U.S. invaded Mexico and captured Mexico City (the "Halls of Montezuma") and paid a trifling sum ($19 million?) for the American Southwest (most of Arizona, New Mexico, and California). The only other possible invasions were British occupation of lands in Oregon (claimed by the U.S.) setttled by treaty, and alleged Indian raids from Mexico (late 19th century Apaches) and from Florida (while a Spanish territory (counterstroke by Jackson against Florida where he hanged a trifling number of people). There was a small raid from Canada into Maine during the Civil War by Confederates, but no doubt some Canadians were involved -- a temporary minor nuisance. Confederate forces invaded the Union many times. Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, West Virginia (which seceded from Virginia during the war) all "border states" had several battles each (most notably Antietem 1862 (or in the language of my ancestors -- Sharpsburg)). Moseby's raiders, regular confederate troops, invaded Ohio and almost killed Gary Cooper (in Friendly Persuasion). The most famous invasion was stopped at Gettysburg (1863). The counterinvasions of the Confederacy were devastating, but could hardly be termed invasions of American territory. There were also a battle or so in New Mexico. American ships had their sovereignty abused in 1805 (U.S. Philadelphia captured by Algerian forces -- later burned by Stephen Decatur and the guys) and during the Civil War (hundreds sunk and burned (some of which were paid for by Britain in the Alabama Claims Tribunal decisions). There were also numerous rebellions, uprisings, disorders, riots, seizures of university campuses, strikes, sitdown strikes, etc. which might well be considered incursions. Many of the strikes in Hawaii during 1900-1939 were fomented by non-citizens and one (Hanapepe Massacre) resulted in 24 deaths. Some of the local papers considered the strikes invasions and part of a plot to seize Hawaii from the U.S. by Japan. George Patton, G-1 in Hawaii command, before WWII, spied on local Japanese and suspected the worse. The only actual invasion of Hawaii during World War II was by a Japanese pilot who landed a damaged plane on Niihau who coerced a local Japanese resident worker into trying to seize the island and had to be killed by an unarmed Hawaiian man who absorbed several Nambu pistol shots. *The Battle of New Orleans (as performed by Johnny Horton) In 18 and 14, we took a little trip, Down from Kentucky on the mighty Mississip We carried our rifles and a little bag of beans And went to fight the British at the town of New Orleans. We fired our cannon till the barrels melted down, Then we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round. We filled him up with cannon balls and powdered his behind, And when we touched that powder off, the gator lost his mind. We fired our guns, but the British kept acoming, But there weren't nigh as many as there were awhile ago, We fired again, and the British started running, Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. This is the only reliable account of the Battle of New Orleans.