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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (48604)4/1/1999 2:18:00 PM
From: Bill Harmond  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 164684
 
Right, KIS. The Sun is burning itself up, too. We should be worried.



To: KeepItSimple who wrote (48604)4/1/1999 2:20:00 PM
From: HG  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
<<<< unless something (press releases, hype) keeps them in station.>>>

Are you saying humankind is running out mechanism for creation of news ? LOL

I decided to get out of this convincing business LOOONG ago after repetitive arguements on the YHOO thread. But for some reason, I'm breaking the silence...

Can I say just a simple thing here which you seem to have missed out on ? Most people on this thread don't really care about being right or wrong, they don't care what happens to AMZN 20 years or even 5 years down the track. If it is around and as big and bigger - so much the better. Its the right now that counts. And right now - the truth is the people on this thread have made millions/hundreds of thousands/thousands - and are continuing to do so by following their own strategy and their own line of thought about the future of AMZN.

Now if you are to be listened to, you have to convince people (thru a live proof) that what you are saying is really the universal truth. Words words words - they are absolutely irrelevant in the face of action !

Like someone once said - those who know they can - do. Those who know they can't - learn. Those who don't have a clue about it - teach and preach !

How about you go and short AMZN at this point and wait for it to fall back into the parent body ? Now THAT would prove your conviction - even to yourself ! If you refuse to do that, then you are just talking .....without really believing in what you are saying....and when you YOURSELF do not believe in you, how can you expect people to listen to you ?

Disclosure : I'm neither long nor short AMZN. With a little nudge from me, my husband went long term long in Jan @148 and held thru the correction. Now thats called putting my money where my mouth is !



To: KeepItSimple who wrote (48604)4/2/1999 12:15:00 AM
From: damniseedemons  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Umm, neither of you understand rocket science or orbital mechanics. Not that I fully understand them either, but I know enough to help you two:

Escape velocity is the initial velocity (with no additional thrust) that a projectile must have in order to escape the gravitational attraction of a given body (ie., Earth). This is generally measured from a surface launch, and ignoring aerodynamic friction.

If something has escape velocity, is does not go into orbit--it keeps moving away from the body it was launched from. To go into stable orbit, initial velocity must be between 71% and less than 100% of escape velocity (depending on what you want the shape of the orbit to be; 71% is circular, and above that gets more elliptical and at 100% escape it escapes).

As for orbits themselves, they are nothing more than vector math/physics. The motion is being broken down into X and Y components. To orbit around a perfectly circular earth (Important: Earth's gravity is ALWAYS acting on the object, even in space), the object needs to above the surface moving in the X-axis at a rate where the Y-axis component acting on it (the earth's pull down, ie, in orbit the object is ALWAYS falling down!) is nullified exactly such that the object, while always falling, doesn't come any closer to the earth (and btw, that's why in orbit there is the effect of "zero-gravity," because you're actually falling at the pull of gravity (though you can't tell without external references such as falling through the atmosphere).

To better visualize orbit. Imagine if you shot a bullet horizontally. It travels far, but eventually, it falls to the ground. But the earth is curved... so if the bullet could travel at a speed (assume it won't slow down) such that it falls (y-component = falling) along with the curvature of the earth, it is now orbiting.

-Sal



To: KeepItSimple who wrote (48604)4/2/1999 10:52:00 AM
From: John Donahoe  Respond to of 164684
 
RE: Orbits decay and *eventually* flame out in a return to the parent body,

That could be decades. And all it takes is a small thrust to keep it up. A large thrust could put it out of earth orbit and beyond.