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To: nuke44 who wrote (1066)	4/1/1999 9:09:00 PM
From: robnhood	Respond to of 17770

<<<If they, or any subsequent NATO prisoners aren't treated accordingly as POWs, then payback's a bitch. >>> BULL SHEET

To: nuke44 who wrote (1066)	4/1/1999 10:36:00 PM
From: Shtirlitz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

<<It is inevitably followed later by a wailing from the same source that the US is a militaristic bully and a bloodthirsty imperialist power after our military sends a significant chunk of it's opponent's population home to the loving arms of their respective dieties.>> Serbs ARE home.

To: nuke44 who wrote (1066)	4/2/1999 12:24:00 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

<<Why is it that every time the US is involved in some sort of conflict, someone always brings out the old chestnut that "US doesn't have the guts". What the hell's that supposed to mean anyway?>> I have to agree Nuke, and its not because I want to. An absolutely unnerving unwillingness to absorb losses has permeated the US policy making apparatus. US policy is aimed at hitting targets from a distance and keeping losses to a minimum. If we start taking losses, or if there is a threat that increasing the risk means taking losses, the question of backing out inevitably comes up. I also think the public is willing to do what is necessary if they can be convinced its not pointless, but attention span is short and politicians are fully aware of it. This spinelessness has crept up on us, IMO, within the past 8 years. Americans have always been shy of conflicts unless obviously justified, but this level of cowardice on the part of the administration is bizaare and frankly I cant explain it. I believe its just a facet of this Administrations addiction to polls and public opinion as gauges of policy. Its absolutely monstrous. It doesnt have anything to do with the military, you know as well as I, more so, that the US Armed Forces go where they are told, and they go with gusto. Its lack of "political" guts. This Administration is unwilling and unable to look Americans in the eye and say, "we did what we thought was right, I stand by it, you can voice your opinion at election time, right now Im doing my damn job." Thats a very Republican thing to do...

To: nuke44 who wrote (1066)	4/2/1999 12:04:00 PM
From: Maarten Z	Respond to of 17770

<Usually this remark is made by someone who would enjoy seeing the US come in a poor second to any number of second rate, world power wannabes.> I hardly want that. In fact quite the opposite. What I would like to see is a strong effective foreign policy and whenever this policy leads to a military solution - to see that solution carried out decisively. I dont like the fact that the US feels obligated to act in various parts of the world because of "humanitarian and moral needs" and then go in with vaguely stated goals to be reached by inadequate means. When I say "no guts" - I dont mean the military - I mean politically. Yes, I believe they have the fortitude to strike back hard when our national security is at stake but in places like Kosovo when things are more ambiguous they will not. I do not want to see the US humiliated by some 3rd rate country.