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To: E who wrote (33586)	4/2/1999 6:17:00 AM
From: Edwarda	Respond to of 108807

E, what a wonderfully clear memory you have! Yes!!!!!!!!!!

To: E who wrote (33586)	4/2/1999 1:18:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>'ruleless relating,' to characterize an aspect of that culture that you believe was radical, and presumably real to some degree, and that appealed to you.< It did appeal to me - but in a negative way. I saw it as unworkable. >The rules were obfuscated, but there were rules.< You've confirmed for me something I suspected but wasn't sure [of]. Other countercultures bring with them their own unforgiving conformism. I'm reminded of the bikers. They professed an unparalleled love of personal freedom of expression. Yet - they talked alike, dressed alike, had uniform outlooks on life. The conformism, the rules of participation, were strict and explicit. As for the hippie movement - if we look at one of the most celebrated events within it - Ken Kesey's journey Furthur - it had the same ruleboundness. You were either on the bus - or off the bus. It got so bad that you could not take acid without the boss' approval. One guy risked a shunning for an "unauthorized state of mind". One of the left-handed benefits of the movement's fragmentation and loss of identity was the opportunity for truly individual, more "integrated" forms of self-expression and inquiry, liberated of the correctness template. I am a direct beneficiary of that quiet intellectual radiation of the Seventies.