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To: Trippi who wrote (1189)	4/2/1999 3:12:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos	Respond to of 17770

Trippi, Excellent analysis once again... Thank you. George

To: Trippi who wrote (1189)	4/2/1999 3:53:00 PM
From: James R. Barrett	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

Trippi, one idea that might stop all this nationalism is if we gave every person in the Balkans his/her OWN COUNTRY. All of the land would be divided up and each person would be given 20 square feet of territory that would be recognized by the U.N. as an independent country. The citizen of each country could have his own flag, national anthem, constitution and Olympic team. Jim

To: Trippi who wrote (1189)	4/2/1999 4:00:00 PM
From: Paul Merriwether	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

Trippi Thanks for your detailed post. It certainly adds to my knowledge on this matter...

To: Trippi who wrote (1189)	4/2/1999 4:39:00 PM
From: Maarten Z	Respond to of 17770

Trippi - well said This area is one big powder keg. And if anything NATO's actions are destabilizing the area even more. BTW - Agree 100% that not lifting the arms embargo years back was a major policy blunder. IMHO so was not actively supporting anti - Milo/pro democracy serbs years ago. MZ

To: Trippi who wrote (1189)	4/2/1999 5:05:00 PM
From: robnhood	Respond to of 17770

<<<Our mission was to force an automous Kosovo on the SERBS at best -- and at worse to avoid the spillage of refugees to avoid destablization -- >>> Trippi,, Not trying to be smart here, but how do you know what the real mission was or is? I think that perhaps destabilizing the region was quite possibly the real mission, and so far has been quite succesful.. Also bonding NATO as a force of agression to be feared, and delivering the UN a death blow--- Also accomplished... Perhaps, the firing up of the military machine could also be a reason,, much more likely now.. Maybe some wag the dog stuff... All IMHO...

To: Trippi who wrote (1189)	4/2/1999 5:16:00 PM
From: Paul Merriwether	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 17770

Trippi Just checked that your "favorite" armchair general wrote today's editorial on the WSJ. He seems to reiterate his claims and contradict yours, that Nazis attacked yugo thru Hungary(I don't know who to believe at this point, but will gladly check up on any references about attack through Croatia instead of Hungary). Before you respond, I would urge you to check your sources since this general has the following credentials: By William E. Odom, a former U.S. Army general and director of the National Security Agency, is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute A couple excerpts follow: A ground invasion must not be limited to Kosovo. In fact, the approach from Hungary--now a NATO ally--into the Voivodina region of Serbia and directly to Belgrade is open country that invites a high-speed armored ground attack. The German military swept down this corridor in World War II, taking the whole of Yugoslavia in a couple of weeks. NATO forces today probably have an even greater qualitative edge over the Serbs than the Wehrmacht had then. And supplying our forces on this front should be much easier than in Kosovo, at least at the beginning. Some official spokesmen have estimated that 200,000 troops will be required for an invasion; others put the figure at 30,000 to 40,000. Only NATO planners with the latest intelligence are in a position to make sound judgments on this issue, but after following the behavior of the Serbian military for several years, I have become convinced that the lower figure is much closer to what is actually needed, especially after a long bombing campaign has degraded Serbian forces. More than 20,000 NATO troops are already in Macedonia, poised to make the "permissive" entry into Kosovo envisioned by the peace agreement Mr. Milosevic rejected. They should now make a "non-permissive" entry, supported by 24,000 U.S. troops stationed in Germany. Facing an invasion from Macedonia and Hungary at the same time, Mr. Milosevic will be doomed. Unfortunately, we cannot destroy him in time to save the Kosovars from slaughter, but we can at least ensure retribution and an end to any further slaughter, especially in neighboring Montenegro. American lives will inevitably be lost in such an invasion. This is a legacy Mr. Clinton cannot escape and a price that we must now pay. If we don't, Mr. Milosevic will survive and NATO will unravel.